Doepfer

Now I'm confused, so let me tell you excatly what I want to do:
 I'm making music for a ballet next year and the overall set-up is; 
 Laptop running Max/Msp, 16 Channel Mixer, RME Fireface 800 and Adat Converter. 
 The instruments are: Guitar, Saxophone, Drum set and Keyboard. 
 
 The Moogerfooger 251 has a four input mixer, two out ( - & + ) a 4-way multiple, 
 a lag control, LFO with triangular and Square waveform, two attenuators, 
 Noise output and a double Sample and Hold function. 
 The 251 has no audio in or out.

The Moogerfoogers Ring Modulator has a LFO with a sine and square output, rate  
and lo/hi frequency can be controlled. 

The Moogerfoogers Freqbox has a VCO and four different waveforms to choose from, 
env. amount, FM amount and Sync ON/OFF can be controlled.

The Moogerfoogers Analog Delay has delay time, short/long and feedback. Internal or 
external loop is also an option.

4 mics from the drums and 1 from the saxophone should go directly into the 
Moogerfoogers/Doepfer set-up to avoid latency. The input from the mics needs to be 
muted sometimes and the amount comming in, should be controllable.
So first of all I need a Doepfer device that can control 5 audio inputs and send them 
on to other devices. What else do I need to make it work?
What can of MDI to CV interface would you recommend, A-190, A-191 or MCV 4?
I want to be able to control as much as possible!
Thanks once again.
Simon

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--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Christensen"
<christensen.simon@...> wrote:

Hi Simon, comments written inline :

>  Now I'm confused, so let me tell you excatly what I want to do:
>  I'm making music for a ballet next year and the overall set-up is; 
>  Laptop running Max/Msp, 16 Channel Mixer, RME Fireface 800 and Adat
Converter. 
>  The instruments are: Guitar, Saxophone, Drum set and Keyboard.

That sounds interesting ! What would be the part played by MAXMSP ?
realtime control of moogerfoogerz, realtime audio process ?

> 4 mics from the drums and 1 from the saxophone should go directly
into the 
> Moogerfoogers/Doepfer set-up to avoid latency. The input from the
mics needs to be 
> muted sometimes and the amount comming in, should be controllable.
> So first of all I need a Doepfer device that can control 5 audio
inputs and send them 
> on to other devices.

Can't you do this with the 16 chan mixer, aux sends to MF and direct
outs to MAXMSP or recording station, mute and stuff... Do you already
know what mixer you'll be working with ? 
If you need realtime control of the send levels with MAXMSP then you
should have a look to A135 quad CV mixer (and maybe A144, they make
good combo). It has only 4 I/O so maybe you'll need a second one for
the sax or a A131 VCA. Like Dieter said, A138d should also interest
you. Maybe VC panning can be interesting too, so you try A134... 

Have a look to the A119 envelope follower too that generates CV and
gate from the envelope lvl of the audio input. MF251 has LFO but not
VClfo (A147) neither ADSR (A140). Maybe ribbon controler (A198),
joystick (A174), theremin (A178) can be cool for you to generate CV or
for the musicians.

> What can of MDI to CV interface would you recommend, A-190, A-191 or
MCV 4?
> I want to be able to control as much as possible!

Then, the more outputs, the better... My advise would be : try to find
a MCV24 (discontinued) but maybe MCV4 is enough, depends on what you
precisely need to do...

Hope that helps !
Max.

Hi Max
Thanks for your time; Max/Msp controls the three different simultaneous tempos that I 
want to use, but the idea was that it also should send midi/cv to my Moogerfooger/
doepfer set up. The main sound of this music is the saxophone and the drums being 
modulated by the analog gear.
 
I have decided that I want to use the 4 Aux sends options my mixer has and route them to 
my modular set-up. 
This decision has made my life a bit easier or has it ? 
Now a have to control the sends as well, when playing the music live.....

Anyway, I think (!) I have decided to buy this:
A 115
A 134 x 2
A 118
A 136
A 106-1
A 190

This should bring four audio signals into the modular system and convert midi to cv.
I'm not quite how to send the signal back to the mixer...
 I have been reading many manuals, but it's still new to me.
Thanks.
Simon

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:

>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Christensen"
> <christensen.simon@> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon, comments written inline :
> 
> >  Now I'm confused, so let me tell you excatly what I want to do:
> >  I'm making music for a ballet next year and the overall set-up is; 
> >  Laptop running Max/Msp, 16 Channel Mixer, RME Fireface 800 and Adat
> Converter. 
> >  The instruments are: Guitar, Saxophone, Drum set and Keyboard.
> 
> That sounds interesting ! What would be the part played by MAXMSP ?
> realtime control of moogerfoogerz, realtime audio process ?
> 
> > 4 mics from the drums and 1 from the saxophone should go directly
> into the 
> > Moogerfoogers/Doepfer set-up to avoid latency. The input from the
> mics needs to be 
> > muted sometimes and the amount comming in, should be controllable.
> > So first of all I need a Doepfer device that can control 5 audio
> inputs and send them 
> > on to other devices.
> 
> Can't you do this with the 16 chan mixer, aux sends to MF and direct
> outs to MAXMSP or recording station, mute and stuff... Do you already
> know what mixer you'll be working with ? 
> If you need realtime control of the send levels with MAXMSP then you
> should have a look to A135 quad CV mixer (and maybe A144, they make
> good combo). It has only 4 I/O so maybe you'll need a second one for
> the sax or a A131 VCA. Like Dieter said, A138d should also interest
> you. Maybe VC panning can be interesting too, so you try A134... 
> 
> Have a look to the A119 envelope follower too that generates CV and
> gate from the envelope lvl of the audio input. MF251 has LFO but not
> VClfo (A147) neither ADSR (A140). Maybe ribbon controler (A198),
> joystick (A174), theremin (A178) can be cool for you to generate CV or
> for the musicians.
> 
> > What can of MDI to CV interface would you recommend, A-190, A-191 or
> MCV 4?
> > I want to be able to control as much as possible!
> 
> Then, the more outputs, the better... My advise would be : try to find
> a MCV24 (discontinued) but maybe MCV4 is enough, depends on what you
> precisely need to do...
> 
> Hope that helps !
> Max.