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Need advice on A-135

Need advice on A-135

2002-04-14 by ilanode

Hi, I know you don't like to discuss the same topic over and over 
again but I couldn't find any comment on what's of interst to me:

There's the A-135 VC Mixer made up by 4 linear VCAs and which is 
designed – according to Doepfer – to deal with audio signals. BUT 
shouldn't they be EXPOTENTIAL VCAs? Does it make sense to route 4 
audio signals through linear VCAs or should I rather go for 2 
logarhythmic A-131 VCAs having 4 audio inputs but can controll them 
only with two CVs (two per A-131 adding up for one) and realizing 
the desired single output on my hifi?

The PAIA homepage was adding to my confusion: "Many artists prefer 
linear dynamic response when building percussion sounds because they 
have much more "punch" than the technically correct exponential 
response." (By the way has one of you experience with the PAIA 
modules?)

If the answer wether log or lin depends on the sounds routed through 
the VCAs: I intend to use a wide range from percussion to voice or 
even bits of a record coming from a loop sampler in the future.
Please, let me know what you think.

On the subject of VCA. I can't share the disliking of the A-132. It 
doesn't react on the A-140 like the A-130 but however dispite of 
it's rather strange behaviour it's a usefull tool to add more 
controll over CV.

Finally: The A-197 sounds great. For me – not using a keyboard – it 
seems to be a great controll device. You should get a N64 easily 2nd 
hand in the future even if it's production gets closed down since 
the kids are stepping ahead to the latest gear. Mind you but it's 
not top on my list for reasons of money since there so many modules 
I see more need for at this time.

Re: Need advice on A-135

2002-04-14 by buechlerjoe

If I remember correctly, the A135 has linear VCAs so that it will work 
correctly with the CV from the A144 Morphing Controller.

The VC mixer strikes me as an extremely desireable module, probably 
the first thing I'd buy if only I had any space left in my A100 
frames!
I already have two log VCAs, so that I can do layering, stereo 
panning, and AM, while keeping the A130 and A132 available for 
controlling modulation intensity and envelope intensity.

I love the A132, and use it constantly. In addition to CV control, its 
fine for splicing an attack sound, such as breath noise, a pick or 
pluck sound, or a metallic hit, onto the front of a patch (all made 
with A100 modules, of course). It's also excellent for general 
switching and boolean logic. I frequently use it as an AND gate in 
conjunction with the A160 Clock Divider, and use it as an ON/OFF 
switch for all sorts of things (no sense wasting the A150 VC Switch 
for simple ON/OFF control, and the A132 doesn't have the 
bleed-through problems that the A150 has).

Joe

 --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "ilanode" <techmeier@w...> wrote:
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> Hi, I know you don't like to discuss the same topic over and over 
> again but I couldn't find any comment on what's of interst to me:
> 
> There's the A-135 VC Mixer made up by 4 linear VCAs and which is 
> designed – according to Doepfer – to deal with audio signals. BUT 
> shouldn't they be EXPOTENTIAL VCAs? Does it make sense to route 4 
> audio signals through linear VCAs or should I rather go for 2 
> logarhythmic A-131 VCAs having 4 audio inputs but can controll them 
> only with two CVs (two per A-131 adding up for one) and realizing 
> the desired single output on my hifi?
> 
> The PAIA homepage was adding to my confusion: "Many artists prefer 
> linear dynamic response when building percussion sounds because they 
> have much more "punch" than the technically correct exponential 
> response." (By the way has one of you experience with the PAIA 
> modules?)
> 
> If the answer wether log or lin depends on the sounds routed through 
> the VCAs: I intend to use a wide range from percussion to voice or 
> even bits of a record coming from a loop sampler in the future.
> Please, let me know what you think.
> 
> On the subject of VCA. I can't share the disliking of the A-132. It 
> doesn't react on the A-140 like the A-130 but however dispite of 
> it's rather strange behaviour it's a usefull tool to add more 
> controll over CV.
> 
> Finally: The A-197 sounds great. For me – not using a keyboard – it 
> seems to be a great controll device. You should get a N64 easily 2nd 
> hand in the future even if it's production gets closed down since 
> the kids are stepping ahead to the latest gear. Mind you but it's 
> not top on my list for reasons of money since there so many modules 
> I see more need for at this time.

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