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MCV24 and some other old products questions

MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-04 by freiksenet

Hello!

First of all, you can now welcome me as a full-fledged member of your
community - yesterday I ordered my first Doepfer modules. I wish to
express my gratitude to all members of this group for helping me in my
choice of modules and to Doepfer company for their wonderful products.

Now to questions. I was interested in MCV24 and Pocket Fader, that as
I understood are discontinued. Is there any way to get one? I wonder
if Doepfer has any plans to continue this products.

Cheers, Mikhail.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-04 by Bakis Sirros

welcome to the group Mikhail!

best regards,
Bakis.


--- freiksenet <freiksenet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> First of all, you can now welcome me as a
> full-fledged member of your
> community - yesterday I ordered my first Doepfer
> modules. I wish to
> express my gratitude to all members of this group
> for helping me in my
> choice of modules and to Doepfer company for their
> wonderful products.
> 
> Now to questions. I was interested in MCV24 and
> Pocket Fader, that as
> I understood are discontinued. Is there any way to
> get one? I wonder
> if Doepfer has any plans to continue this products.
> 
> Cheers, Mikhail.
> 
> 


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AW: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-05 by hardware@doepfer.de

> Now to questions. I was interested in MCV24 and Pocket Fader, that as
> I understood are discontinued. Is there any way to get one? I wonder
> if Doepfer has any plans to continue this products.

There are no plans to manufacture these products again. The sales of these
products were very poor in the end and this is why the production has been
stopped. Sorry. I'd take a look for second hand devices.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-05 by Михаил Новиков

Hello!

That's a pity ( I think I am able to create Pocket Fader analog with your
great OEM kits, but I won't be able to recreate MCV24, and I don't know any
other similar devices. Is there any other way to pass midi information from
numerous faders/knobs to A-100?

Best Regards, Mikhail Novikov

2008/1/5, hardware@doepfer.de <hardware@doepfer.de>:
>
>   > Now to questions. I was interested in MCV24 and Pocket Fader, that as
> > I understood are discontinued. Is there any way to get one? I wonder
> > if Doepfer has any plans to continue this products.
>
> There are no plans to manufacture these products again. The sales of these
> products were very poor in the end and this is why the production has been
> stopped. Sorry. I'd take a look for second hand devices.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
> 
>


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-05 by peter sedin

looks like this shop in sweden still got them!

http://www.analogue.org/network/frames24.htm

peace..
peter

íÉÈÁÉÌ îÏ×ÉËÏ× <freiksenet@gmail.com> wrote:                               Hello!
 
 That's a pity ( I think I am able to create Pocket Fader analog with your
 great OEM kits, but I won't be able to recreate MCV24, and I don't know any
 other similar devices. Is there any other way to pass midi information from
 numerous faders/knobs to A-100?
 
 Best Regards, Mikhail Novikov
 
 2008/1/5, hardware@doepfer.de <hardware@doepfer.de>:
 >
 >   > Now to questions. I was interested in MCV24 and Pocket Fader, that as
 > > I understood are discontinued. Is there any way to get one? I wonder
 > > if Doepfer has any plans to continue this products.
 >
 > There are no plans to manufacture these products again. The sales of these
 > products were very poor in the end and this is why the production has been
 > stopped. Sorry. I'd take a look for second hand devices.
 >
 > Best wishes
 > Dieter Doepfer
 >
 >
 > 
 >
 
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-07 by hardware@doepfer.de

> Hello!
>
> That's a pity ( I think I am able to create Pocket Fader analog with your
> great OEM kits, but I won't be able to recreate MCV24, and I
> don't know any
> other similar devices. Is there any other way to pass midi
> information from
> numerous faders/knobs to A-100?
>
> Best Regards, Mikhail Novikov

We are working on a new simple low-cost Midi-to-CV interface with multiple
outputs (preliminary name "MTV16"). It will be available as a module as a
replacement for both A-191 and MCV24. The prototype is ready but I have no
information concerning availablity and price so far.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-07 by Silas Johansen

Sounds most interesting. Is there a web-page for this?

/Silas
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On Jan 7, 2008 9:12 AM,  <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:

>  We are working on a new simple low-cost Midi-to-CV interface with multiple
>  outputs (preliminary name "MTV16"). It will be available as a module as a
>  replacement for both A-191 and MCV24. The prototype is ready but I have no
>  information concerning availablity and price so far.
>
>  Best wishes
>  Dieter Doepfer
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-07 by hardware@doepfer.de

> > We are working on a new simple low-cost Midi-to-CV interface with
multiple
> > outputs (preliminary name "MTV16"). It will be available as a module as
a
> > replacement for both A-191 and MCV24. The prototype is ready but I have
no
> > information concerning availablity and price so far.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer

> Sounds most interesting. Is there a web-page for this?
>
> /Silas

No. This is a very preliminary info for the members of this group. I can
send you a picture of the prototype pc board. That's all I have. The board
has been developed last year for the new robot control unit of the Kraftwerk
stage equipment. The existing firmware has been adapted for the control of
the robot motors via midi note messages (a bit unusual as one would expect
control change messages). But we will develop a different firmware so that
the 16 CVs are controlled in a different way. The plan is to have probably 8
outputs for each Midi channel: gate, pitch 1 (controlled by midi note
messages), pitch (controlled by midi pitch bend, pitch 1 and pitch 2 can be
mixed together e.g. in the A-185-2 precision adder/bus access), velocity,
after touch, volume, modulation and probably panorama. There will be no
complicated menu structure as for the MCV24 but only two rotary switches for
the two Midi channels. Maybe another polyphonic firmware (four voice ?) will
be available too.

But it's too early to promise such details. After NAMM we will continue with
the MTV16 ideas.

btw. the NAMM is end of next week and we exhibit at the booth of Analogue
Haven. It a bit outside the normal exhibition area. Details on the news page
of our website.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-07 by Silas Johansen

Thank you for the info, Dieter. Detailed control over two voices on
independent MIDI channels sounds cool - don't know if it's possible,
but one way to combine this with four-voice polyphony on one channel
would be to change to this mode when both rotary switches was set to
the same channel and then have something like pitch, gate, velocity
for each voice and pitch bend, channel aftertouch and two controllers
on the remaining four sockets. Does this make sense?

Another possibility would be to have one rotary to select mode and one
to select first channel with any other channels implicitly numbered
first channel +1, +2 and +3. This would also permit nicenesses like
drum triggers, one channel with a lot of controllers, two with fewer,
four as above, 16 controllers/synced LFO's as per A-191, shepherd
generator as per A-191 and whatever else people could come up with.
All in all making for a very versatile module with a simple user
interface. But I suspect this would drive the cost up as the firmware
would be more complicated.

No matter how this module will look I have a suspicion that it will
end up on my wish list, though.

/Silas
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On Jan 7, 2008 3:13 PM,  <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > We are working on a new simple low-cost Midi-to-CV interface with
>  multiple
>  > > outputs (preliminary name "MTV16"). It will be available as a module as
>  a
>  > > replacement for both A-191 and MCV24. The prototype is ready but I have
>  no
>  > > information concerning availablity and price so far.
>  > >
>  > > Best wishes
>  > > Dieter Doepfer
>
>  > Sounds most interesting. Is there a web-page for this?
>  >
>  > /Silas
>
>  No. This is a very preliminary info for the members of this group. I can
>  send you a picture of the prototype pc board. That's all I have. The board
>  has been developed last year for the new robot control unit of the
> Kraftwerk
>  stage equipment. The existing firmware has been adapted for the control of
>  the robot motors via midi note messages (a bit unusual as one would expect
>  control change messages). But we will develop a different firmware so that
>  the 16 CVs are controlled in a different way. The plan is to have probably
> 8
>  outputs for each Midi channel: gate, pitch 1 (controlled by midi note
>  messages), pitch (controlled by midi pitch bend, pitch 1 and pitch 2 can be
>  mixed together e.g. in the A-185-2 precision adder/bus access), velocity,
>  after touch, volume, modulation and probably panorama. There will be no
>  complicated menu structure as for the MCV24 but only two rotary switches
> for
>  the two Midi channels. Maybe another polyphonic firmware (four voice ?)
> will
>  be available too.
>
>  But it's too early to promise such details. After NAMM we will continue
> with
>  the MTV16 ideas.
>
>  btw. the NAMM is end of next week and we exhibit at the booth of Analogue
>  Haven. It a bit outside the normal exhibition area. Details on the news
> page
>  of our website.
>
>  Best wishes
>  Dieter Doepfer
>
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] MCV24 and some other old products questions

2008-01-08 by hardware@doepfer.de

> Thank you for the info, Dieter. Detailed control over two voices on
> independent MIDI channels sounds cool - don't know if it's possible,
> but one way to combine this with four-voice polyphony on one channel
> would be to change to this mode when both rotary switches was set to
> the same channel and then have something like pitch, gate, velocity
> for each voice and pitch bend, channel aftertouch and two controllers
> on the remaining four sockets. Does this make sense?

That's an excellent idea. I'll forward it to Christian Assall who will write
the firmware.

> Another possibility would be to have one rotary to select mode and one
> to select first channel with any other channels implicitly numbered
> first channel +1, +2 and +3. This would also permit nicenesses like
> drum triggers, one channel with a lot of controllers, two with fewer,
> four as above, 16 controllers/synced LFO's as per A-191, shepherd
> generator as per A-191 and whatever else people could come up with.
> All in all making for a very versatile module with a simple user
> interface. But I suspect this would drive the cost up as the firmware
> would be more complicated.

Even this is a good idea. I think we will start a poll if it's time. At the
moment it is too early as we are in preparations for NAMM (mainly the latest
firmware for the bit cruncher/modifier). But in February/March 2008 we will
probably begin with the MTV16 firmware (that's only a preliminary internal
term).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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