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Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-07 by vcovcfvca

Cool, hope you enjoy it. 
I'm over in Australia and never get to try modules before buying, so 
generally find that I have to take a leap of faith. So far all 
modules I've bought have been useful/enjoyable in one way or 
another. The more modules I get, the more uses I find for my older 
modules. :0)

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Ross Goniakowski <carfull@...> 
wrote:
>
> i'm going to find out for myself in a few days, i ordered 
one...the way you describe using it is pretty much what i had in 
mind ;)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: vcovcfvca <vcovcfvca@...>
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 3:39:02 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?
> 
> Even later response! 
> I just recieved the A-125 yesterday, so haven't had a chance to 
give 
> it a really good run yet, but on first listen it has given my 
modular 
> a nice additional sound shaping tool. Its sufficiently swooshy and 
> swirly when required, as all good phasers should be. Jet and wind 
> sounds are a "breeze"! Plus, I'm enjoying trying all of those 
wacky 
> modulated phase shifts that I could never do on an effect pedal. 
The 
> manual phase shift knob in conjunction with the CV amount knob 
allows 
> you to kind of dial in a frequency band within which your phase 
shift 
> occurs. Again, something that goes beyond the average pedal. 
> Modulating it with audio frequency CVs at high resonance yielded 
some 
> interesting results. Its not a module to use in every patch (eg: a 
> guitarist probably wouldn't play every note through a phaser 
pedal), 
> but a nice expansion module to experiment with. Soundwise, 
although I 
> quite like the resonant tone from the A-125, I would say its not 
> as "watery or coloured" (don't you love subjective sound 
> descriptions! !??) as the EH Small Stone (which I own). Its 
perhaps 
> closer to the Boss PH-1 (which I used to own). This would kind of 
make 
> sense from Mr. Doepfer's description of the circuit. I'm guessing 
this 
> also means that its likely to be close to the Sytsem 100 phase 
shifter 
> (which I've not used). I belive the EH Small Stone uses 
> transconductance op amps which yield a different resonant tone. 
> 
> On a final note: for me the A-125 was the right combination of 
price, 
> straight forward features and size (I like the fact that it only 
uses 
> 8HP in my rack). 
> 
> Hope this helps you and others. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Adam
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Florian Anwander 
> <Florian.Anwander@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ross
> > 
> > > i can't find any audio examples on the net..the only analog 
phase 
> shifters i've heard are the EH Small Stone and the MXR Phase 90, 
i'm 
> interested in at least as good quality ...i'm covered on the 
digital 
> end, but i want the ability to patch in to my Doepfer system, and 
> there are some used mods available atm...
> > Late jump in: The A-125 can sound very similar to the EH small 
stone.
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> > 
> > Florian
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-07 by Ross Goniakowski

i'm going to find out for myself in a few days, i ordered one...the way you describe using it is pretty much what i had in mind ;)
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----- Original Message ----
From: vcovcfvca <vcovcfvca@yahoo.com.au>
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 3:39:02 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

Even later response! 
I just recieved the A-125 yesterday, so haven't had a chance to give 
it a really good run yet, but on first listen it has given my modular 
a nice additional sound shaping tool. Its sufficiently swooshy and 
swirly when required, as all good phasers should be. Jet and wind 
sounds are a "breeze"! Plus, I'm enjoying trying all of those wacky 
modulated phase shifts that I could never do on an effect pedal. The 
manual phase shift knob in conjunction with the CV amount knob allows 
you to kind of dial in a frequency band within which your phase shift 
occurs. Again, something that goes beyond the average pedal. 
Modulating it with audio frequency CVs at high resonance yielded some 
interesting results. Its not a module to use in every patch (eg: a 
guitarist probably wouldn't play every note through a phaser pedal), 
but a nice expansion module to experiment with. Soundwise, although I 
quite like the resonant tone from the A-125, I would say its not 
as "watery or coloured" (don't you love subjective sound 
descriptions! !??) as the EH Small Stone (which I own). Its perhaps 
closer to the Boss PH-1 (which I used to own). This would kind of make 
sense from Mr. Doepfer's description of the circuit. I'm guessing this 
also means that its likely to be close to the Sytsem 100 phase shifter 
(which I've not used). I belive the EH Small Stone uses 
transconductance op amps which yield a different resonant tone. 

On a final note: for me the A-125 was the right combination of price, 
straight forward features and size (I like the fact that it only uses 
8HP in my rack). 

Hope this helps you and others. 

Regards, 
Adam

--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ross
> 
> > i can't find any audio examples on the net..the only analog phase 
shifters i've heard are the EH Small Stone and the MXR Phase 90, i'm 
interested in at least as good quality ...i'm covered on the digital 
end, but i want the ability to patch in to my Doepfer system, and 
there are some used mods available atm...
> Late jump in: The A-125 can sound very similar to the EH small stone.
> 
> Florian
>




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Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-08 by Adam-V

Hi Adam,

Roughly where in Australia are you?

Cheers,
Adam-V
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@...> wrote:
> I'm over in Australia and never get to try modules before buying, so 
> generally find that I have to take a leap of faith.

Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by vcovcfvca

Hey Adam-V, 

Roughly Melbourne. 

-Adam

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Adam-V" <adam-v@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Roughly where in Australia are you?
> 
> Cheers,
> Adam-V
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@> 
wrote:
> > I'm over in Australia and never get to try modules before 
buying, so 
> > generally find that I have to take a leap of faith.
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by p. hendricks

On 1/8/08 1:13 PM, "Adam-V" <adam-v@spiralsect.com> wrote:

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@...> wrote:
>> I'm over in Australia and never get to try modules before buying, so
>> generally find that I have to take a leap of faith.

not any easier in the States... unless your near AH....in South Cali, that's
all. check the specs and manual, and see/hear what others say-- AND how that
applies to how you work.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by Florian Anwander

Hi,

> not any easier in the States... unless your near AH....in South Cali, that's
> all. check the specs and manual, and see/hear what others say-- AND how that
> applies to how you work. 
In Germany there is a law regarding all goods you buy in any kind of 
distance selling (like mail order or internet), that the buyer can give 
the goods back within one month without giving any reason. Thats really 
great.
The funny thin is, that the shops first complained about it, but finally 
the law enhanced their business. Because the people order things for 
testing only, find them great and keep them.

Btw: I think it is a rule of the European Union Directive, and there are 
similar laws in other European countries.

Florian

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by Silas Johansen

On Jan 9, 2008 9:54 AM, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de> wrote:
>  In Germany there is a law regarding all goods you buy in any kind of
>  distance selling (like mail order or internet), that the buyer can give
>  the goods back within one month without giving any reason. Thats really
>  great.
>  The funny thin is, that the shops first complained about it, but finally
>  the law enhanced their business. Because the people order things for
>  testing only, find them great and keep them.
>
>  Btw: I think it is a rule of the European Union Directive, and there are
>  similar laws in other European countries.

We have a similar law in Denmark, so it's quite possibly an EU thing.
Might be an expensive way to try out stuff that you buy
internationally, though, as you'll still have to pay for postage both
ways if you don't buy.

/Silas

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by Florian Anwander

Hi Silas

> We have a similar law in Denmark, so it's quite possibly an EU thing.
> Might be an expensive way to try out stuff that you buy
> internationally, though, as you'll still have to pay for postage both
> ways if you don't buy.
In Germany the postage has to be covered by the seller. Good webshops as 
thomann or globetrotter (for another market ;-)) provide already 
complete return address stickers with "receiver pays postage" on it.

Florian

Re: A-125 phase shifter impressions?

2008-01-09 by Adam-V

Hi Adam,

It's nice to discover another Doepfer owner located in Melbourne. If
there is a module you wish to try out before you buy and it is one
that I have, you'd be most welcome to pop around and do so. Just
contact me off the list to organise it.

Cheers,
Adam-V
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@...> wrote:
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>
> Hey Adam-V, 
> 
> Roughly Melbourne. 
> 
> -Adam
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Adam-V" <adam-v@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adam,
> > 
> > Roughly where in Australia are you?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Adam-V
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "vcovcfvca" <vcovcfvca@> 
> wrote:
> > > I'm over in Australia and never get to try modules before 
> buying, so 
> > > generally find that I have to take a leap of faith.
> >
>

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