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Hi again

I have the Phase Locked Loop and dont quite get it or maybe I do???

All I manager to get out of it is like a bit crunch/glitchy sounds
...not a complaint but am I missing something?

Hi Cray,

the PLL depends essentially on what you send into it. Do you really know 
what a PLL is for and what it should do?

Florian

cray5656 wrote:

> Hi again
> 
> I have the Phase Locked Loop and dont quite get it or maybe I do???
> 
> All I manager to get out of it is like a bit crunch/glitchy sounds
> ...not a complaint but am I missing something?
> 
> 
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> 
> 

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No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the glitchy bitcrush type
sounds out of it

any ideas of a patch to try?

Lately I've been having a lot of fun trying to lock to clipped and volt-rotted signals coming 
out of the BBD module. Try putting something that's really squared off into the BBD (I use 
the low outputs of the Zorlon Cannon), take the signal out of the BBD out jack, put into the 
"signal in" of the PLL. 

Next, patch a slew limiter (the more control you have over rise/fall/response, the better) 
between the phase comp out jack and the vco CV in jack. Play around with the input 
signal, bbd clock, and the slew parameters until you get a signal you like out of the PLL. 
The slew in place of the onboard LPF gives you much finer control, you can dial in a wide 
range of tones this way. 

At high BBD clock rates with this patch (at least with my 1024) when the pll is in mid or 
high, mode 1 or 2, there's some really nice crud in there when it loses lock on the signal 
and tries to find its way home. 

One of my favorite modules ever. There are a million different things you can do to patch 
out the normalled routing and many things result in delightful audio garbage. I just 
discovered that patching in the Zorlon (which has a linear freq control) in place of the 
PLL's onboard VCO yields great results in mode 3.. strange things happen when you try to 
get the short pseudorandom sequences to lock to a better-behaved external signal.

-Scott




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" <amnesia@...> wrote:

>
> No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the glitchy bitcrush type
> sounds out of it
> 
> any ideas of a patch to try?
>

i see the doepfer sales on PLL raising very steep after this post.
thank you scott (makes me curious for your music as well)


nakedintruder schrieb:
>
> Lately I've been having a lot of fun trying to lock to clipped and 
> volt-rotted signals coming
> out of the BBD module. Try putting something that's really squared off 
> into the BBD (I use
> the low outputs of the Zorlon Cannon), take the signal out of the BBD 
> out jack, put into the
> "signal in" of the PLL.
>
> Next, patch a slew limiter (the more control you have over 
> rise/fall/response, the better)
> between the phase comp out jack and the vco CV in jack. Play around 
> with the input
> signal, bbd clock, and the slew parameters until you get a signal you 
> like out of the PLL.
> The slew in place of the onboard LPF gives you much finer control, you 
> can dial in a wide
> range of tones this way.
>
> At high BBD clock rates with this patch (at least with my 1024) when 
> the pll is in mid or
> high, mode 1 or 2, there's some really nice crud in there when it 
> loses lock on the signal
> and tries to find its way home.
>
> One of my favorite modules ever. There are a million different things 
> you can do to patch
> out the normalled routing and many things result in delightful audio 
> garbage. I just
> discovered that patching in the Zorlon (which has a linear freq 
> control) in place of the
> PLL's onboard VCO yields great results in mode 3.. strange things 
> happen when you try to
> get the short pseudorandom sequences to lock to a better-behaved 
> external signal.
>
> -Scott
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "cray5656" <amnesia@...> wrote:
> >
> > No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the glitchy bitcrush type
> > sounds out of it
> >
> > any ideas of a patch to try?
> >
>
>  



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I'm actually using the PLL in a patch at the moment

combined with A120 after the Low Pass and back up in the CV in... gives nice effect with 
full resonnance on the A120... and at the same time doing freq. mult. with the A163...


I'm curious to also try with BBD signal coming in the PLL. never done that so far...

when I first had the PLL i wasnt too sure about it, but now I really enjoy it, combining the 
signal others VCO signal gives really nice defined tones... and colors...


Best,


Alexandre



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Floppy <floppyscratcher@...> wrote:

>
> i see the doepfer sales on PLL raising very steep after this post.
> thank you scott (makes me curious for your music as well)
> 
> 
> nakedintruder schrieb:
> >
> > Lately I've been having a lot of fun trying to lock to clipped and 
> > volt-rotted signals coming
> > out of the BBD module. Try putting something that's really squared off 
> > into the BBD (I use
> > the low outputs of the Zorlon Cannon), take the signal out of the BBD 
> > out jack, put into the
> > "signal in" of the PLL.
> >
> > Next, patch a slew limiter (the more control you have over 
> > rise/fall/response, the better)
> > between the phase comp out jack and the vco CV in jack. Play around 
> > with the input
> > signal, bbd clock, and the slew parameters until you get a signal you 
> > like out of the PLL.
> > The slew in place of the onboard LPF gives you much finer control, you 
> > can dial in a wide
> > range of tones this way.
> >
> > At high BBD clock rates with this patch (at least with my 1024) when 
> > the pll is in mid or
> > high, mode 1 or 2, there's some really nice crud in there when it 
> > loses lock on the signal
> > and tries to find its way home.
> >
> > One of my favorite modules ever. There are a million different things 
> > you can do to patch
> > out the normalled routing and many things result in delightful audio 
> > garbage. I just
> > discovered that patching in the Zorlon (which has a linear freq 
> > control) in place of the
> > PLL's onboard VCO yields great results in mode 3.. strange things 
> > happen when you try to
> > get the short pseudorandom sequences to lock to a better-behaved 
> > external signal.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "cray5656" <amnesia@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the glitchy bitcrush type
> > > sounds out of it
> > >
> > > any ideas of a patch to try?
> > >
> >
> >  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

i demand an mp3.

even if you record it on a crappy mobile phone. 



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "nakedintruder" <meatlog@...> wrote:
>
> Lately I've been having a lot of fun trying to lock to clipped and
volt-rotted signals coming 
> out of the BBD module. Try putting something that's really squared
off into the BBD (I use 
> the low outputs of the Zorlon Cannon), take the signal out of the
BBD out jack, put into the 
> "signal in" of the PLL. 
> 
> Next, patch a slew limiter (the more control you have over
rise/fall/response, the better) 
> between the phase comp out jack and the vco CV in jack. Play around
with the input 
> signal, bbd clock, and the slew parameters until you get a signal
you like out of the PLL. 
> The slew in place of the onboard LPF gives you much finer control,
you can dial in a wide 
> range of tones this way. 
> 
> At high BBD clock rates with this patch (at least with my 1024) when
the pll is in mid or 
> high, mode 1 or 2, there's some really nice crud in there when it
loses lock on the signal 
> and tries to find its way home. 
> 
> One of my favorite modules ever. There are a million different
things you can do to patch 
> out the normalled routing and many things result in delightful audio
garbage. I just 
> discovered that patching in the Zorlon (which has a linear freq
control) in place of the 
> PLL's onboard VCO yields great results in mode 3.. strange things
happen when you try to 
> get the short pseudorandom sequences to lock to a better-behaved
external signal.

> 
> -Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "cray5656" <amnesia@> wrote:
> >
> > No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the glitchy bitcrush type
> > sounds out of it
> > 
> > any ideas of a patch to try?
> >
>

i, too, like the PLL module too much. i have 3 of
them!
great for noisy, glitchy and generaly wierd stuff!


--- Floppy <floppyscratcher@googlemail.com> wrote:

> i see the doepfer sales on PLL raising very steep
> after this post.
> thank you scott (makes me curious for your music as
> well)
> 
> 
> nakedintruder schrieb:
> >
> > Lately I've been having a lot of fun trying to
> lock to clipped and 
> > volt-rotted signals coming
> > out of the BBD module. Try putting something
> that's really squared off 
> > into the BBD (I use
> > the low outputs of the Zorlon Cannon), take the
> signal out of the BBD 
> > out jack, put into the
> > "signal in" of the PLL.
> >
> > Next, patch a slew limiter (the more control you
> have over 
> > rise/fall/response, the better)
> > between the phase comp out jack and the vco CV in
> jack. Play around 
> > with the input
> > signal, bbd clock, and the slew parameters until
> you get a signal you 
> > like out of the PLL.
> > The slew in place of the onboard LPF gives you
> much finer control, you 
> > can dial in a wide
> > range of tones this way.
> >
> > At high BBD clock rates with this patch (at least
> with my 1024) when 
> > the pll is in mid or
> > high, mode 1 or 2, there's some really nice crud
> in there when it 
> > loses lock on the signal
> > and tries to find its way home.
> >
> > One of my favorite modules ever. There are a
> million different things 
> > you can do to patch
> > out the normalled routing and many things result
> in delightful audio 
> > garbage. I just
> > discovered that patching in the Zorlon (which has
> a linear freq 
> > control) in place of the
> > PLL's onboard VCO yields great results in mode 3..
> strange things 
> > happen when you try to
> > get the short pseudorandom sequences to lock to a
> better-behaved 
> > external signal.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "cray5656" <amnesia@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > No idea what the PLL is for I know I like the
> glitchy bitcrush type
> > > sounds out of it
> > >
> > > any ideas of a patch to try?
> > >
> >
> >  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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