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Your right!!!!   Good Idea!!!!

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From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com on behalf of cray5656
Sent: Tue 3/4/2008 7:00 PM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-100 Monster Base



Dieter you should make use of the top of the case that gets taken off
, that could be 2 more rows. then I'd def buy it, so it would have the
Buchla 200e style look



 


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> Would a power supply fit in there? Don't think so.
what is wrong with 2 power supplies? or an external

Would a power supply fit in there? Don't think so.

On 3/5/08, Paul Schmidt <paul_schmidt@mirrorliteco.com> wrote:
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>   Your right!!!! Good Idea!!!!
>
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> From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> on
> behalf of cray5656
> Sent: Tue 3/4/2008 7:00 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] A-100 Monster Base
>
> Dieter you should make use of the top of the case that gets taken off
> , that could be 2 more rows. then I'd def buy it, so it would have the
> Buchla 200e style look
>
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> 
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> My personal favorite is the monster base frame (as it is) and separate a
> half monster case (i.e. 2 rows only with 168 HP each) that can stand on the
> base frame. 

sounds really good...

I still hope it will be possible to use the base frame for putting on top of it two small 
versions suitcases...

Best,

A

> Dieter you should make use of the top of the case that gets taken off
> , that could be 2 more rows. then I'd def buy it, so it would have the
> Buchla 200e style look

My personal favorite is the monster base frame (as it is) and separate a
half monster case (i.e. 2 rows only with 168 HP each) that can stand on the
base frame. Only one unit would become too heavy from my point of view. The
monster base frame and a half monster can be carried easily by one person.
If all is within one unit two persons would be necessary.

b.t.w. For the Frankfurt Musikmesse next week we have mounted a ribbon
controller with two d3m angles to one of the two monster base frames we will
display. I have added the new pictures to the info page of the monster base
frames. It's a very robust construction and only 2 screws are required to
assembly/disassemble the construction. The ribbon can be stored inside the
top cover during transportation. And the A-100CGK can be positioned below
the ribbon.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

florian, i've been following this thread with amazement :) i thought
modular guys were supposed to be weedy nerd types, but the reality is
clearly quite different. and someone now wants to put more modules in
the lid !???

when do we get the doepfer work-out video ?

stu

>
> My personal favorite is the monster base frame (as it is) and  
> separate a
> half monster case (i.e. 2 rows only with 168 HP each) that can stand  
> on the
> base frame. Only one unit would become too heavy from my point of  
> view. The
> monster base frame and a half monster can be carried easily by one  
> person.
> If all is within one unit two persons would be necessary.
>

Very good idea !

> b.t.w. For the Frankfurt Musikmesse next week we have mounted a ribbon
> controller with two d3m angles to one of the two monster base frames  
> we will
> display. I have added the new pictures to the info page of the  
> monster base
> frames. It's a very robust construction and only 2 screws are  
> required to
> assembly/disassemble the construction. The ribbon can be stored  
> inside the
> top cover during transportation. And the A-100CGK can be positioned  
> below
> the ribbon.
>

Just perfect, Dieter ! Thanks.

When exactly are you at the Messe; in which hall ?
I might hop over from Antwerp to say hello to you.

-g

>
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
>

Hi

> My personal favorite is the monster base frame (as it is) and separate a
> half monster case (i.e. 2 rows only with 168 HP each) that can stand on the
> base frame. Only one unit would become too heavy from my point of view. The
> monster base frame and a half monster can be carried easily by one person.
> If all is within one unit two persons would be necessary.
This sounds like a very reasonable version too. Doe you know what is the 
weight of the monsterbase? To my experience every big box above 20kGs is 
no fun. I have a DX7 in a case, which weighs 19kgs and a FZ1 with 16 kGs 
and you definitely do not want to stumble with those two in the left and 
right hand.

Florian

> When exactly are you at the Messe; in which hall ?
> I might hop over from Antwerp to say hello to you.

I'm only on Wednesday and Saturday at the booth. We exhibit within the
special show "Synthesizer Welt" in hall 5.1, booth B66 (details on our
website). On Thursday and Friday the guys from Schneiders Buero will
probably look after the booth.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> This sounds like a very reasonable version too. Doe you know what is the
> weight of the monsterbase? To my experience every big box above 20kGs is
> no fun. I have a DX7 in a case, which weighs 19kgs and a FZ1 with 16 kGs
> and you definitely do not want to stumble with those two in the left and
> right hand.
>
> Florian

The weight of the first monster base (filled with modules as shown in the
pictures) is 16 kg including the top cover.

Dieter

Stu Grimshaw wrote:

> florian, i've been following this thread with amazement :) i thought
> modular guys were supposed to be weedy nerd types, but the reality is
> clearly quite different.
http://fa.utfs.org/fun/Das_Qualitaetsteam.jpg
I am the guy in the black shirt

(this picture will be removed within the next 15 minutes ;-)))


> when do we get the doepfer work-out video ?
We tried to film it, but the camera wasn't strong enough.

Florian (You can call me "Goliath" too...)

Florian:

       Looks like they been seeding you with Jabba genes - where's the water pipe?

Bill

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Florian Anwander 
  To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 8:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A-100 Monster Base




  Stu Grimshaw wrote:

  > florian, i've been following this thread with amazement :) i thought
  > modular guys were supposed to be weedy nerd types, but the reality is
  > clearly quite different.
  http://fa.utfs.org/fun/Das_Qualitaetsteam.jpg
  I am the guy in the black shirt

  (this picture will be removed within the next 15 minutes ;-)))

  > when do we get the doepfer work-out video ?
  We tried to film it, but the camera wasn't strong enough.

  Florian (You can call me "Goliath" too...)


   


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maybe you can have a little chat about the steckbox! :)

Richard

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-100 Monster Base


>> When exactly are you at the Messe; in which hall ?
>> I might hop over from Antwerp to say hello to you.
> 
> I'm only on Wednesday and Saturday at the booth. We exhibit within the
> special show "Synthesizer Welt" in hall 5.1, booth B66 (details on our
> website). On Thursday and Friday the guys from Schneiders Buero will
> probably look after the booth.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
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> maybe you can have a little chat about the steckbox! :)
>
> Richard

The Steckbox/A-183-1 competition has been discussed and solved in a friendly
way with Andreas of Schneiders Buero. Who needs a stand-alone version will
purchase the Steckbox and who wants a Eurorack modular version the A-183-1.
So I don't think there will be much chat ...

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

I assumed that it would not be possible to extend power cables from the
power supplies inside the case to the top of the case.

On 3/5/08, cray5656 <amnesia@internode.on.net> wrote:
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>   > Would a power supply fit in there? Don't think so.
> what is wrong with 2 power supplies? or an external
>
> 
>


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--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
> My personal favorite is the monster base frame (as it is)
> and separate a half monster case (i.e. 2 rows only with
> 168 HP each) that can stand on the base frame.

That is appealing. I have some questions:

- What is the maximum module depth for modules to be mounted into the 
lower row of the Monster Base Frame?
- I haven't seen "half monster case" mentioned before. Is it available 
yet?
- Does it stand freely on top of the Monster Base Frame, or is there 
some special connection?
- Can I comfortably put two regular A-100G6 Basic Frames aside each 
other on top a Monster Base Frame?
- In the above case, can I remove the A-100G6 rack ears? (I ask, 
because it is a bit difficult to try that myself just now.)

Jari Jokinen

You find my answers written inline

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


> That is appealing. I have some questions:
>
> - What is the maximum module depth for modules to be mounted into the
> lower row of the Monster Base Frame?

For the first prototypes the depth is ~ 70 mm for the lower row. We wanted
to keep the height as low as possible and for 90% of all modules 70 mm is
sufficient. The bus board for the lower row is mounted in the rear area
(i.e. not below the modules).

> - I haven't seen "half monster case" mentioned before. Is it available
yet?

No. So far we built this case only as special designs.

> - Does it stand freely on top of the Monster Base Frame, or is there
> some special connection?

It stands freely but we will probably add the same threads at the rear side
as for the monster cases. These threads can be used to connect several
devices with a flat bar available in hardware stores.

> - Can I comfortably put two regular A-100G6 Basic Frames aside each
> other on top a Monster Base Frame?

If you speak about the standard 19" frames: no. They are much too deep and
two 19" frames side by side are about 2x480mm=960mm. But the monster base is
only 890 mm.

> - In the above case, can I remove the A-100G6 rack ears? (I ask,
> because it is a bit difficult to try that myself just now.)

In this case the width would be OK. But you need an additional footprint for
the rear part of the frames as the available area on top of the monster base
is only ~ 160 mm.

> Jari Jokinen

Thank you.

Would these Suitcase measures apply to the Half Monster Case too?
"inside usable depth for A-100 modules: approx. 80 mm in the power 
supply area (bottom right), resp. approx. 100 mm in the remaining 
area (measured from inner side of the front panel until end of the pc 
board of the module)"

My Plan B M15 VCO is 103mm deep... Maybe I it goes into the upper row 
of the Monster Base? Has anyone tried M15 in a Suitcase or Monster 
Case?

Jari Jokinen 

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
> You find my answers written inline
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> > That is appealing. I have some questions:
> >
> > - What is the maximum module depth for modules to be mounted into 
the
> > lower row of the Monster Base Frame?
> 
> For the first prototypes the depth is ~ 70 mm for the lower row. We 
wanted
> to keep the height as low as possible and for 90% of all modules 70 
mm is
> sufficient. The bus board for the lower row is mounted in the rear 
area
> (i.e. not below the modules).
> 
> > - I haven't seen "half monster case" mentioned before. Is it 
available
> yet?
> 
> No. So far we built this case only as special designs.
> 
> > - Does it stand freely on top of the Monster Base Frame, or is 
there
> > some special connection?
> 
> It stands freely but we will probably add the same threads at the 
rear side
> as for the monster cases. These threads can be used to connect 
several
> devices with a flat bar available in hardware stores.
> 
> > - Can I comfortably put two regular A-100G6 Basic Frames aside 
each
> > other on top a Monster Base Frame?
> 
> If you speak about the standard 19" frames: no. They are much too 
deep and
> two 19" frames side by side are about 2x480mm=960mm. But the 
monster base is
> only 890 mm.
> 
> > - In the above case, can I remove the A-100G6 rack ears? (I ask,
> > because it is a bit difficult to try that myself just now.)
> 
> In this case the width would be OK. But you need an additional 
footprint for
> the rear part of the frames as the available area on top of the 
monster base

> is only ~ 160 mm.
> 
> > Jari Jokinen
>

You find my answers written inline

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> Would these Suitcase measures apply to the Half Monster Case too?

Yes.

> "inside usable depth for A-100 modules: approx. 80 mm in the power
> supply area (bottom right), resp. approx. 100 mm in the remaining
> area (measured from inner side of the front panel until end of the pc
> board of the module)"
>
> My Plan B M15 VCO is 103mm deep... Maybe I it goes into the upper row
> of the Monster Base? Has anyone tried M15 in a Suitcase or Monster
> Case?

I have Peter's M15 in our demo system (two monster cases and the two new
monster bases) and had no problems to install it. I have measured the exact
distance. In the area outside the power supplies the useable depth is ~
106...108 mm (distance between inner side of the frontpanel and the female
header of the bus cable connected to the bus connector. Our specs are always
a bit on the safe side :-)

> Jari Jokinen