Doepfer

Hi to all I'm new here and I wish to know what kind of module I can buy 
for use a-100 with guitars, I want start with 10 or 20 module for 
create a space sound with guitars.
Please help me!!!!!
Bye Matt

A-119 input module. That will get your guitar up to line level. It also has an envelope follower, which is very handy for guitar. Low pass filters don't really do much for guitar except at the most extreme settings. The multi-mode filter, vactrol filter, and triple-resonant filter are all capable of more subtle stuff with guitar tones.

Other than that, a lot of the modules are pretty much like stomp boxes except for the fact that they can be voltage controlled. So, having lots of interesting control voltage sources is what's going to distinguish you from a guy with a bunch of pedals. So, consider getting LFOs, sample and hold, random voltage sources, maybe a theremin module or foot controller module.

-hope that helps
-neil


--- On Mon, 5/26/08, madeintheshade29017 <madeintheshade29017@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: madeintheshade29017 <madeintheshade29017@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Doepfer modular for guitars
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 7:49 AM
> Hi to all I'm new here and I wish to know what kind of
> module I can buy 
> for use a-100 with guitars, I want start with 10 or 20
> module for 
> create a space sound with guitars.
> Please help me!!!!!
> Bye Matt

Hey,
Like Neil said, you'll probably want a A119 module. 
There's also the new A138d that will do the impedance matching stuff
if you want to use effects that are not in the A100 (stompboxes etc).
Choose a set of CV sources (theremin, LFO (VCLFO for the win !!)...)
Take a look at the A188 BBD modules, great delays.
Consider buying a VCO that you could use for frequency mod or with a
ring mod.
If you plan to do substractive synthesis (filters) then consider using
a compressor or something that will nuke you guitar signal so that you
don't end with huge attacks and no sustain at all (for example when
you use filter with envelope follower).

I personally suggest, althought it requires non Doepfer stuff, the
A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix TM7 scrotum smasher. If you like dirty
trash extreme sounds, that's the most incredible combo I've eard.
Something between a pig screaming and a nuclear blast.

So,
-Inputs/Outputs modules (119, 138d)
-CV modules : follow your instinct, pick the ones that you can use
while playing guitar (joystick is great but you need a hand to use it
heh !)
-sound processing modules...

There have been a few discussions on this list about guitar and A100,
maybe you can try to find them out to get cool ideas.

Hope that helps,
Max.

sometimes i think a really bright clean way to get gain and bypass 
the a119 altogether would be helpful.  a119 has a very cheap sounding 
overdrive, which i admit to using often, however i really crave a 
cleaner sound sometimes, and i currently don't really have anything 
that would increase the gain without distorting it.  i'd like to hear 
what a few modules would do to a cleaner guitar sound.

i love env follower quacks and believe me, i use my a119s often.  i 
wouldn't mind a more gourmet input module.  i've never tried any 
other manufacturers' versions.  but the a119 seems basic and meant to 
be affordable.  i'm a lo-fi type of guy, so i haven't been too 
aggressive seeking alternatives, but i wonder what it would be 
like....

-t


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hey,
> Like Neil said, you'll probably want a A119 module. 
> There's also the new A138d that will do the impedance matching stuff
> if you want to use effects that are not in the A100 (stompboxes 
etc).
> Choose a set of CV sources (theremin, LFO (VCLFO for the win !!)...)
> Take a look at the A188 BBD modules, great delays.
> Consider buying a VCO that you could use for frequency mod or with a
> ring mod.
> If you plan to do substractive synthesis (filters) then consider 
using
> a compressor or something that will nuke you guitar signal so that 
you
> don't end with huge attacks and no sustain at all (for example when
> you use filter with envelope follower).
> 
> I personally suggest, althought it requires non Doepfer stuff, the
> A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix TM7 scrotum smasher. If you like 
dirty
> trash extreme sounds, that's the most incredible combo I've eard.
> Something between a pig screaming and a nuclear blast.
> 
> So,
> -Inputs/Outputs modules (119, 138d)
> -CV modules : follow your instinct, pick the ones that you can use
> while playing guitar (joystick is great but you need a hand to use 
it
> heh !)
> -sound processing modules...
> 
> There have been a few discussions on this list about guitar and 
A100,

> maybe you can try to find them out to get cool ideas.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Max.
>

o yeah, i forgot to input on this---

the BBD module sounds marvellous with guitar.  that is reallty spacey 
and gorgeous.

-t

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "thomasborax" <thomasborax@...> 
wrote:
>
> sometimes i think a really bright clean way to get gain and bypass 
> the a119 altogether would be helpful.  a119 has a very cheap 
sounding 
> overdrive, which i admit to using often, however i really crave a 
> cleaner sound sometimes, and i currently don't really have anything 
> that would increase the gain without distorting it.  i'd like to 
hear 
> what a few modules would do to a cleaner guitar sound.
> 
> i love env follower quacks and believe me, i use my a119s often.  i 
> wouldn't mind a more gourmet input module.  i've never tried any 
> other manufacturers' versions.  but the a119 seems basic and meant 
to 
> be affordable.  i'm a lo-fi type of guy, so i haven't been too 
> aggressive seeking alternatives, but i wonder what it would be 
> like....
> 
> -t
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey,
> > Like Neil said, you'll probably want a A119 module. 
> > There's also the new A138d that will do the impedance matching 
stuff
> > if you want to use effects that are not in the A100 (stompboxes 
> etc).
> > Choose a set of CV sources (theremin, LFO (VCLFO for the 
win !!)...)
> > Take a look at the A188 BBD modules, great delays.
> > Consider buying a VCO that you could use for frequency mod or 
with a
> > ring mod.
> > If you plan to do substractive synthesis (filters) then consider 
> using
> > a compressor or something that will nuke you guitar signal so 
that 
> you
> > don't end with huge attacks and no sustain at all (for example 
when
> > you use filter with envelope follower).
> > 
> > I personally suggest, althought it requires non Doepfer stuff, the
> > A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix TM7 scrotum smasher. If you like 
> dirty
> > trash extreme sounds, that's the most incredible combo I've eard.
> > Something between a pig screaming and a nuclear blast.
> > 
> > So,
> > -Inputs/Outputs modules (119, 138d)
> > -CV modules : follow your instinct, pick the ones that you can use
> > while playing guitar (joystick is great but you need a hand to 
use 

> it
> > heh !)
> > -sound processing modules...
> > 
> > There have been a few discussions on this list about guitar and 
> A100,
> > maybe you can try to find them out to get cool ideas.
> > 
> > Hope that helps,
> > Max.
> >
>

> however i really crave a 

> cleaner sound sometimes, and i currently don't really have anything 

> that would increase the gain without distorting it.


A line out from a guitar amp or mic pre would do the trick.

Having looked closely at several envelope followers, I can say the the 119 has a nice one. Not the fastest, but very smooth. I would def. get the 119. 

Tony


----------------------------------------
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> From: thomasborax@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:40:10 +0000
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Doepfer modular for guitars
> 
> sometimes i think a really bright clean way to get gain and bypass 
> the a119 altogether would be helpful.  a119 has a very cheap sounding 
> overdrive, which i admit to using often, however i really crave a 
> cleaner sound sometimes, and i currently don't really have anything 
> that would increase the gain without distorting it.  i'd like to hear 
> what a few modules would do to a cleaner guitar sound.
> 
> i love env follower quacks and believe me, i use my a119s often.  i 
> wouldn't mind a more gourmet input module.  i've never tried any 
> other manufacturers' versions.  but the a119 seems basic and meant to 
> be affordable.  i'm a lo-fi type of guy, so i haven't been too 
> aggressive seeking alternatives, but i wonder what it would be 
> like....
> 
> -t
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime"  
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>> Like Neil said, you'll probably want a A119 module. 
>> There's also the new A138d that will do the impedance matching stuff
>> if you want to use effects that are not in the A100 (stompboxes 
> etc).
>> Choose a set of CV sources (theremin, LFO (VCLFO for the win !!)...)
>> Take a look at the A188 BBD modules, great delays.
>> Consider buying a VCO that you could use for frequency mod or with a
>> ring mod.
>> If you plan to do substractive synthesis (filters) then consider 
> using
>> a compressor or something that will nuke you guitar signal so that 
> you
>> don't end with huge attacks and no sustain at all (for example when
>> you use filter with envelope follower).
>> 
>> I personally suggest, althought it requires non Doepfer stuff, the
>> A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix TM7 scrotum smasher. If you like 
> dirty
>> trash extreme sounds, that's the most incredible combo I've eard.
>> Something between a pig screaming and a nuclear blast.
>> 
>> So,
>> -Inputs/Outputs modules (119, 138d)
>> -CV modules : follow your instinct, pick the ones that you can use
>> while playing guitar (joystick is great but you need a hand to use 
> it
>> heh !)
>> -sound processing modules...
>> 
>> There have been a few discussions on this list about guitar and 
> A100,
>> maybe you can try to find them out to get cool ideas.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> Max.
>>
> 
> 
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>
> Having looked closely at several envelope followers, I can say
> the the 119 has a nice one. Not the fastest, but very smooth. I
> would def. get the 119.
>
> Tony

If you want to make it faster you can change the capacitor C6. Details on
the A-100 DIY page. But smoothness and fastness are   reciprocal, i.e.
increasing the fastness by lowering C6 reduces the smoothness and vice
versa.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Hi

there were already some suggestions. So let me add my 2 ct's.

The first remark: the A-100 won't give you a guitar-synth. It will be a 
very complex effect processor, but not a synth!

Now lets list the best effects you can do with an A-100 on a guitar
- Filtering: beginning with the luxury version of an auto-wah, up to the 
simulation of other bodies with highly resonating filter banks.
- Delay based processing: from standard chorus/flanger to tuned 
resonating delays.
- Classic Distortion: classic distortion is mostly done better with 
classical guitar efx, but there are some auto-dynamic distortion things, 
which cannot be done with the guitar stom boxes - e.g. Clean start of 
the sound and the sustain fades over to a distortion.
- other types of distortion, like ringmodulation, stepped audio by 
clocked s&h, Bit crushing, and others; all of these again dynamic
- Dynamic treatment: a modular system can be used as a very complex 
dynamic processor (in sense of a compressor, sustainer, whatever...). 
Typical ist frequency split band dynamics or time delayed dynamics.


The core of every patch will be the envelope follower A-119. 
Additionally I suggest a slew limiter A-170 which can be used as a 
second more flexible envelope follower. Also I recommend to add some in 
and outputs to the A-119 (the modification is described in my book, but 
I think I will put the infos to the files section.


for the listed functions I recommend the following modules:

Filters: A-121 or A-107 or A-101-1 - yes no moog or what ever filter! 
You will need a multimode filter with highpasss, bandpass lowpass. 
Soundwise I'd prefer the vactrol based 101-1, but the curtis chip based 
121 and 107 are nice too.
Triple vc resonance filter A-127 or Trautoniumfilter A-104 (the 104 can 
be changed only by truning the knowbs, while the A-127 is voltage 
controlled, which means you can use it with a sweller pedal).

Delay: A-182-1 with 256 or 512 stages.

Classic distortion:
A-136. This one is the recommended for guitar (for synths the A-137 
would be better).

Dynamic processing and all time/envelope based changes:
At least two linear VCAs with offset (required for compressor, ducker, 
sustainer,...) either A-130 or A-132-3. Also for swell pedal control.
A-175 Dual voltage inverter.
A-138-D FX-Insert (and manual crossfader).
A-134-2 VC crossfader (crossfader for swell pedal control).
A-140 classic ADSR Envelope
any LFO out of A-143-3, A-144, A-145, A-146; where the quad LFO has more 
LFOs but less functions.
A-148 S&H (can be used for stepped audio too)
A-138a linear Mixer for CVs but works also for audio.


other types of distortion
A-114 Ringmodulator
A-126 Frequency shifter
A-167 Analog Comparator (can be used as crude distortion with pulsewidth 
modulation).
Instead of the A-114 and A-126 you might have a look for an Alesis 
Bitrman, is also great for this kind of effects.



So my basic setup would be:

A-119 Input
A-138a Mixer
A-101-1 Filter
A-182-1 Delay
A-136 Distortion
A-132-3 VCA
A-138-D Efx-Insert
A-175 Voltage inverter
A-140 Envelope
A-144 LFO


If you still have money then add:
A-170 Slewlimiter
A-127 resonant filter
A-148 S&H
A-34-2 VC-crossfader
A-114 Ringmodulator
A-126 Frequency shifter
A-167 Comparator


Best regards, Florian

And one urgent addon:

the subtractive synthesis expects most time a continous input signal. 
E.g. an synth VCO produces continuous sound all the time. The guitar 
string cannot provide that, so you definitily always should have two 
versions of your guitar signal:
1.) the original which you use for envelope shaping, which should be as 
dynamic as possible
2.) a clean, but highly compressed audio signal which should be used as 
audio for postprocessing filtering, ring modulation and similar. You may 
use the envelope follower, a inverter and a VCA the of the A-100 for 
this task, but an external compressor will do it most times much easier 
and much better and last ut not least for less bucks.
Only for distortion based processing the dynamic signal is better as audio.

Florian

Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hi
> 
> there were already some suggestions. So let me add my 2 ct's.
> 
> The first remark: the A-100 won't give you a guitar-synth. It will be a 
> very complex effect processor, but not a synth!
> 
> Now lets list the best effects you can do with an A-100 on a guitar
> - Filtering: beginning with the luxury version of an auto-wah, up to the 
> simulation of other bodies with highly resonating filter banks.
> - Delay based processing: from standard chorus/flanger to tuned 
> resonating delays.
> - Classic Distortion: classic distortion is mostly done better with 
> classical guitar efx, but there are some auto-dynamic distortion things, 
> which cannot be done with the guitar stom boxes - e.g. Clean start of 
> the sound and the sustain fades over to a distortion.
> - other types of distortion, like ringmodulation, stepped audio by 
> clocked s&h, Bit crushing, and others; all of these again dynamic
> - Dynamic treatment: a modular system can be used as a very complex 
> dynamic processor (in sense of a compressor, sustainer, whatever...). 
> Typical ist frequency split band dynamics or time delayed dynamics.
> 
> 
> The core of every patch will be the envelope follower A-119. 
> Additionally I suggest a slew limiter A-170 which can be used as a 
> second more flexible envelope follower. Also I recommend to add some in 
> and outputs to the A-119 (the modification is described in my book, but 
> I think I will put the infos to the files section.
> 
> 
> for the listed functions I recommend the following modules:
> 
> Filters: A-121 or A-107 or A-101-1 - yes no moog or what ever filter! 
> You will need a multimode filter with highpasss, bandpass lowpass. 
> Soundwise I'd prefer the vactrol based 101-1, but the curtis chip based 
> 121 and 107 are nice too.
> Triple vc resonance filter A-127 or Trautoniumfilter A-104 (the 104 can 
> be changed only by truning the knowbs, while the A-127 is voltage 
> controlled, which means you can use it with a sweller pedal).
> 
> Delay: A-182-1 with 256 or 512 stages.
> 
> Classic distortion:
> A-136. This one is the recommended for guitar (for synths the A-137 
> would be better).
> 
> Dynamic processing and all time/envelope based changes:
> At least two linear VCAs with offset (required for compressor, ducker, 
> sustainer,...) either A-130 or A-132-3. Also for swell pedal control.
> A-175 Dual voltage inverter.
> A-138-D FX-Insert (and manual crossfader).
> A-134-2 VC crossfader (crossfader for swell pedal control).
> A-140 classic ADSR Envelope
> any LFO out of A-143-3, A-144, A-145, A-146; where the quad LFO has more 
> LFOs but less functions.
> A-148 S&H (can be used for stepped audio too)
> A-138a linear Mixer for CVs but works also for audio.
> 
> 
> other types of distortion
> A-114 Ringmodulator
> A-126 Frequency shifter
> A-167 Analog Comparator (can be used as crude distortion with pulsewidth 
> modulation).
> Instead of the A-114 and A-126 you might have a look for an Alesis 
> Bitrman, is also great for this kind of effects.
> 
> 
> 
> So my basic setup would be:
> 
> A-119 Input
> A-138a Mixer
> A-101-1 Filter
> A-182-1 Delay
> A-136 Distortion
> A-132-3 VCA
> A-138-D Efx-Insert
> A-175 Voltage inverter
> A-140 Envelope
> A-144 LFO
> 
> 
> If you still have money then add:
> A-170 Slewlimiter
> A-127 resonant filter
> A-148 S&H
> A-34-2 VC-crossfader
> A-114 Ringmodulator
> A-126 Frequency shifter
> A-167 Comparator
> 
> 
> Best regards, Florian

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Hi Florian,

thank you very much for the 'shopping list' ;o)

2008/5/28 Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>:

>   >So my basic setup would be:
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I thought the A-126 was no longer available due to unavailability of
CEM3382 chips?

Cheers,
Adam-V

> I thought the A-126 was no longer available due to unavailability of
> CEM3382 chips?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam-V

Right. The A-126 is (nearly) sold out. I think we have only 2 with blue LED
left.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> And one urgent addon:
> 
> the subtractive synthesis expects most time a continous input signal. 
> E.g. an synth VCO produces continuous sound all the time. The guitar 
> string cannot provide that, so you definitily always should have two 
> versions of your guitar signal:
> 1.) the original which you use for envelope shaping, which should be as 
> dynamic as possible
> 2.) a clean, but highly compressed audio signal which should be used as 
> audio for postprocessing filtering, ring modulation and similar. You
may 
> use the envelope follower, a inverter and a VCA the of the A-100 for 
> this task, but an external compressor will do it most times much easier 
> and much better and last ut not least for less bucks.
> Only for distortion based processing the dynamic signal is better as
audio.
> 
> Florian
> 

Can you use the A-196 PLL module to create a contiuous signal? I have
no experience with this module.

Hi

> Can you use the A-196 PLL module to create a contiuous signal? I have
> no experience with this module.
No. This has nothing to do with it. What I mean is a full compression 
(high compression ratio, low threshold), combined with a noisegate. 
Usually the corresponding stomp boxes are called "sustainer".

Listen to the guitar sound of Jamie West-Oram of "The Fixx".

Florian

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> > Can you use the A-196 PLL module to create a contiuous signal? I have
> > no experience with this module.
> No. This has nothing to do with it. What I mean is a full compression 
> (high compression ratio, low threshold), combined with a noisegate. 
> Usually the corresponding stomp boxes are called "sustainer".
> 
> Listen to the guitar sound of Jamie West-Oram of "The Fixx".
> 
> Florian
>

I'm sorry that my post was not more accurate. I meant creating a
continuous signal different from the guitar signal itself. In other
words: Use the guitar to control the PLL and then use the Pll to
control a VCO. The VCO then should have the same frequency of the
guitar. Ofcause it will only work on single notes, but I play bass so
that doen't matter much. And as I have no experience with the A-196 I
have no idea that it will actualy work.

I've managed to get a lot out of the guitar/Doepfer marriage using an e-bow and a looping delay pedal. The Akai Headrush fake tape delay is super-useful; it has four 1/4" outs for each "tape head", which allows for some ridiculous routing options with my modular.

-n




--- On Thu, 5/29/08, Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de> wrote:

From: Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Doepfer modular for guitars
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 11:43 AM










    
            Hi



> Can you use the A-196 PLL module to create a contiuous signal? I have

> no experience with this module.

No. This has nothing to do with it. What I mean is a full compression 

(high compression ratio, low threshold), combined with a noisegate. 

Usually the corresponding stomp boxes are called "sustainer".



Listen to the guitar sound of Jamie West-Oram of "The Fixx".



Florian

> I'm sorry that my post was not more accurate. I meant creating a
> continuous signal different from the guitar signal itself. In other
> words: Use the guitar to control the PLL and then use the Pll to
> control a VCO. The VCO then should have the same frequency of the
> guitar. Ofcause it will only work on single notes, but I play bass so
> that doen't matter much. And as I have no experience with the A-196 I
> have no idea that it will actualy work.

I don't think that this will work as you expect. To obtain a continuous
output even a continuous input is required for the PLL (like the output of a
VCO). But the signal coming from a guitar is not continuous but has only a
short pseudo-steady stage after plucking the string. Before and after this
pseudo-steady stage the PLL does not "know" which frequency it has to follow
and will go crazy. You could stretch the steady stage time a bit by a
compressor but it will not really solve the problem.
We are currently working on the pitch-to-CV converter module (A-195) and
have similar problems with the pitch detection during the attack phase and
the late release phase. We will probably use some kind of a level threshold
that has to be exceeded before the pitch-detection will start (an envelope
follower similar to the A-119 with adjustable threshold). As soon as the
level is lower than the threshold the last CV value will be stored and held
until the level goes above the threshold again (with some hysteresis between
the on/off levels).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Hi Matijn,

in principle it might work, but reality is something different. You need 
a very straight audio input signal for the PLL, but the guitar does not 
provide that finally. The better solution would be a pitch to voltage 
converter. Where still the Korg MS-3 or the Roland SPV 355 are known as 
the best.

Today I 'd tend to use a good guitar to midi interface (vulgo the Axion) 
and then convert the MIDI signal with a simple MIDI/CV interface to a 
voltage.

I once did some diy experiments with Pitch to voltage interfaces and 
found, that guitars (as all picked or hammered string instruments) are 
very(!) difficult to handle. It is much easier to use a bowed instrument 
or a wind instrument. Also the pitch to voltage conversion has the 
problme, that the conversion gets worse as softer the volume of the 
input signal becomes.

I'd really go for a (pre synth) compression and distortion of the guitar 
signal to get a signal which is similar to an oscillator. Even better if 
you have a hexa pickup and can do separate distortion for each string, 
which sounds already great on its own.

Florian




matijnboshoven wrote:

> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
> <Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
> 
>>Hi
>>
>>
>>>Can you use the A-196 PLL module to create a contiuous signal? I have
>>>no experience with this module.
>>
>>No. This has nothing to do with it. What I mean is a full compression 
>>(high compression ratio, low threshold), combined with a noisegate. 
>>Usually the corresponding stomp boxes are called "sustainer".
>>
>>Listen to the guitar sound of Jamie West-Oram of "The Fixx".
>>
>>Florian
>>
> 
> 
> I'm sorry that my post was not more accurate. I meant creating a
> continuous signal different from the guitar signal itself. In other
> words: Use the guitar to control the PLL and then use the Pll to
> control a VCO. The VCO then should have the same frequency of the
> guitar. Ofcause it will only work on single notes, but I play bass so
> that doen't matter much. And as I have no experience with the A-196 I
> have no idea that it will actualy work.
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Thanks for the reply's Florian and Dieter.

This might be working to:
I have recently bought a second hand Yamaha EZ-EG. This thing looks
like a toy, but it realy works very well. I hear no delay when playing
a midi synth with this thing. It was very cheap and I'm learning to
play guitar as well.

Hi Matijn,

yepp, that will work great (and it looks spacier than a real guitar).

Florian

matijnboshoven wrote:

> Thanks for the reply's Florian and Dieter.
> 
> This might be working to:
> I have recently bought a second hand Yamaha EZ-EG. This thing looks
> like a toy, but it realy works very well. I hear no delay when playing
> a midi synth with this thing. It was very cheap and I'm learning to
> play guitar as well.
> 
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> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*
Tel.   +49(89)45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49(89)45841-111           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
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