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Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-06-30 by jeswa

I bought 2 MN3007 circuit (1024 stages) on eBay and replaced the MN3209
in one of my 1-88-1Y (256) BBD modules.
I followed the procedure in the A-188-1 Adjustment Guide
<http://www.doepfer.de/service/A1881_adjustment.pdf> , but the circuit
just sat there. Seems like I did everything right, I switched back to
the 3209 and it worked, then back to the 3007 (making the appropriate
jumper adjustments and all), but I got no sound at all from the MN3007.

Is there something else I should be doing or could my chips be dead?




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Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-06-30 by jeswa

Hi Florian,
The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150129355107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005
Thanks,
j


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi jeswa
> 
> > I bought 2 MN3007 circuit (1024 stages) on eBay ... 
> > jumper adjustments and all), but I got no sound at all from the
MN3007.
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>  From which seller did you buy those MN3007?
> 
> Florian
>

AW: [Doepfer_a100] Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by hardware@doepfer.de

> I bought 2 MN3007 circuit (1024 stages) on eBay and replaced the MN3209
> in one of my 1-88-1Y (256) BBD modules.
> I followed the procedure in the A-188-1 Adjustment Guide
> <http://www.doepfer.de/service/A1881_adjustment.pdf> , but the circuit
> just sat there. Seems like I did everything right, I switched back to
> the 3209 and it worked, then back to the 3007 (making the appropriate
> jumper adjustments and all), but I got no sound at all from the MN3007.
>
> Is there something else I should be doing or could my chips be dead?

I do not want to blame a reliable Ebayer (provided that he/she is) and I'm
not sure if this applies in your case and but there were counterfeit BBD
circuits offered in Ebay. Any low circuits were re-labelled as BBD circuits.
We had to scrap 150 counterfeit BBD circuits ordered via Ebay when we
started the A-188-1 production.

But if you followed the A-188-1 adjustment/replacement guide and then
switched back successfully to the MN3209 I'd guess that the MN3007 are
defective.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by Florian Anwander

Hi jeswa,

as Dieter already mentioned, there is the possibility, that your seller 
has been betrayed by a chip provider. Unfortunately this is not very 
uncommon in Hong Kong.

The other possibility is in fact, that chips die while the transport. I 
ordered last year 50 pieces of a CMOS chip which is runnning out of 
production from a very honest supplier in the states. But after the 
arrival here in Germany eight of them were dead (though the packing was 
completely profesionally done).

So may be this is simply bad luck.

Florian

jeswa wrote:
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> Hi Florian,
> The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150129355107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005
> Thanks,
> j

Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by ilanode

One MN3007 for 3 USD is a steal - but from whom's pocket? For example
Small Bear in the US stocks 'em for 10.95 each even though Small B. is
NOT known for high prices. Since I'm bad in trouble shooting myself
I'd stick to vendors which are known to be reliable. Best regards, Ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi jeswa,
> 
> as Dieter already mentioned, there is the possibility, that your seller 
> has been betrayed by a chip provider. Unfortunately this is not very 
> uncommon in Hong Kong.
> 
> The other possibility is in fact, that chips die while the transport. I 
> ordered last year 50 pieces of a CMOS chip which is runnning out of 
> production from a very honest supplier in the states. But after the 
> arrival here in Germany eight of them were dead (though the packing was 
> completely profesionally done).
> 
> So may be this is simply bad luck.
> 
> Florian
> 
> jeswa wrote:
> 
> > Hi Florian,
> > The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150129355107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > Thanks,
> > j
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by technology transplant

Unfortunately this seller you purchased from is ALSO one of many of Hong Kong STUPER Sellers and ALL of there devices are counterfeits.  Well, not even counterfeit.  As counterfeits should at least work awhile.  These are outright fraudulent, sandpapered and restamped.  You can tell by the whitish chalky stamp that isn't very clear.
 
Technology Transplant & chipforbrains auctions you may find all series of mn bbds including mn3007 that are NEW & GENUINE.  Doepfer may attest.
 
You can email chipforbrains@yahoo.com for BBD pricing.
MN3007 are $5 each
 
Sincerely, cy
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 7/1/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:
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From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:03 AM






One MN3007 for 3 USD is a steal - but from whom's pocket? For example
Small Bear in the US stocks 'em for 10.95 each even though Small B. is
NOT known for high prices. Since I'm bad in trouble shooting myself
I'd stick to vendors which are known to be reliable. Best regards, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi jeswa,
> 
> as Dieter already mentioned, there is the possibility, that your seller 
> has been betrayed by a chip provider. Unfortunately this is not very 
> uncommon in Hong Kong.
> 
> The other possibility is in fact, that chips die while the transport. I 
> ordered last year 50 pieces of a CMOS chip which is runnning out of 
> production from a very honest supplier in the states. But after the 
> arrival here in Germany eight of them were dead (though the packing was 
> completely profesionally done).
> 
> So may be this is simply bad luck.
> 
> Florian
> 
> jeswa wrote:
> 
> > Hi Florian,
> > The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
> >
http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= 150129355107& ssPageName= STRK:MEWN: IT&ih=005
> > Thanks,
> > j
>

 













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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by technology transplant

Unfortunately this seller you purchased from is ALSO one of many of Hong Kong STUPER Sellers and ALL of there devices are counterfeits.  Well, not even counterfeit.  As counterfeits should at least work awhile.  These are outright fraudulent, sandpapered and restamped.  You can tell by the whitish chalky stamp that isn't very clear.
 
Technology Transplant & chipforbrains auctions you may find all series of mn bbds including mn3007 that are NEW & GENUINE.  Doepfer may attest.
 
You can email chipforbrains@yahoo.com for BBD pricing.
MN3007 are $5 each
 
Sincerely, cy
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 7/1/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:03 AM






One MN3007 for 3 USD is a steal - but from whom's pocket? For example
Small Bear in the US stocks 'em for 10.95 each even though Small B. is
NOT known for high prices. Since I'm bad in trouble shooting myself
I'd stick to vendors which are known to be reliable. Best regards, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi jeswa,
> 
> as Dieter already mentioned, there is the possibility, that your seller 
> has been betrayed by a chip provider. Unfortunately this is not very 
> uncommon in Hong Kong.
> 
> The other possibility is in fact, that chips die while the transport. I 
> ordered last year 50 pieces of a CMOS chip which is runnning out of 
> production from a very honest supplier in the states. But after the 
> arrival here in Germany eight of them were dead (though the packing was 
> completely profesionally done).
> 
> So may be this is simply bad luck.
> 
> Florian
> 
> jeswa wrote:
> 
> > Hi Florian,
> > The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
> >
http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= 150129355107& ssPageName= STRK:MEWN: IT&ih=005
> > Thanks,
> > j
>

 













[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-01 by technology transplant

Unfortunately this seller you purchased from is ALSO one of many of Hong Kong STUPER Sellers and ALL of there devices are counterfeits.  Well, not even counterfeit.  As counterfeits should at least work awhile.  These are outright fraudulent, sandpapered and restamped.  You can tell by the whitish chalky stamp that isn't very clear.
 
Technology Transplant & chipforbrains auctions you may find all series of mn bbds including mn3007 that are NEW & GENUINE.  Doepfer may attest.
 
You can email chipforbrains@yahoo.com for BBD pricing.
MN3007 are $5 each
 
Sincerely, cy
 
 
 


--- On Tue, 7/1/08, ilanode <techmeier@web.de> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
From: ilanode <techmeier@web.de>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:03 AM






One MN3007 for 3 USD is a steal - but from whom's pocket? For example
Small Bear in the US stocks 'em for 10.95 each even though Small B. is
NOT known for high prices. Since I'm bad in trouble shooting myself
I'd stick to vendors which are known to be reliable. Best regards, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi jeswa,
> 
> as Dieter already mentioned, there is the possibility, that your seller 
> has been betrayed by a chip provider. Unfortunately this is not very 
> uncommon in Hong Kong.
> 
> The other possibility is in fact, that chips die while the transport. I 
> ordered last year 50 pieces of a CMOS chip which is runnning out of 
> production from a very honest supplier in the states. But after the 
> arrival here in Germany eight of them were dead (though the packing was 
> completely profesionally done).
> 
> So may be this is simply bad luck.
> 
> Florian
> 
> jeswa wrote:
> 
> > Hi Florian,
> > The seller is named Eden All Custom Guitars, here is the eBay auction:
> >
http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= 150129355107& ssPageName= STRK:MEWN: IT&ih=005
> > Thanks,
> > j
>

 













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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Trouble Replacing an A-188-1 BBD Circuit (Switching a MN3209 for an MN3007)

2008-07-02 by hardware@doepfer.de

> Unfortunately this seller you purchased from is ALSO one of many
> of Hong Kong STUPER Sellers and ALL of there devices are
> counterfeits.  Well, not even counterfeit.  As counterfeits
> should at least work awhile.  These are outright fraudulent,
> sandpapered and restamped.  You can tell by the whitish chalky
> stamp that isn't very clear.
>  
> Technology Transplant & chipforbrains auctions you may find all
> series of mn bbds including mn3007 that are NEW & GENUINE. 
> Doepfer may attest.

Yes, I can confirm that we never had problems with circuits we received from
Technology Transplant or Chipforbrains.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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