Doepfer

1)
As someone who likes to run external audio signals thru my modular (guitar
mostly) I would like a pitch SHIFTER... But with all the tweakage one would
expect on a modular, and a quantiser built in. The ability to have a
sequencer (155) play a tune on an oscillator AND change the pitch shifting
on a pitch shifter would be great... I curently do this by routing CVs out
to the pedal input of a stomp box pitch shifter, but its not giving known
pitches that are musically the same as 1 octave per volt. So this would be
lovely!!
2)
A new sampler module, the curent one is great, but I want/need something
that can be set to record via a gate signal, and has variable in and out
(sample trim) points (this might be simerlar, the same as the Harvestman
module, n´dont know, havent got one... yet)
3a)
This ones more fuzzy... I imagine a filter, that is at one end of its range
a regular filter, which REMOVES frequencys from an input, but at the other
end ADDs frequencies. Soft to harsh in one box. variable (CV-able) Freqency
cutoff/add, Q control, and someway to vary continously the frequencys you
are cutting and adding...
3b)
Also filters always have a switch to choose whether its a Low pass, Band
pass or high pass... why not 2 variable controls one for the bottom limits
of the filter one for the top limits. So if the Bottom control was at 0 and
the Top at 3 you get a Low pass, Bottom is at 6 top is at 10, you get a High
pass, Bottom is at 3, top is at 6, you get a band pass?
4)
Oh and I want a simple combination VCA and AR module, 2 at least in one
panel...(just an audio in out and a gate input for each) I REALLY REALLY
HATE having to patch a ADSR to a VCA everytime... and I NEVER use D or S...
cos Im always sequencing/triggering, not playing a keyboard.

Mark

-- 
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no


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You find some comments inline

Dieter Doepfer

> 1)
> As someone who likes to run external audio signals thru my modular (guitar
> mostly) I would like a pitch SHIFTER... But with all the tweakage one
would
> expect on a modular, and a quantiser built in. The ability to have a
> sequencer (155) play a tune on an oscillator AND change the pitch shifting
> on a pitch shifter would be great... I curently do this by routing CVs out
> to the pedal input of a stomp box pitch shifter, but its not giving known
> pitches that are musically the same as 1 octave per volt. So this would be
> lovely!!

Currently I see no way to built an analog pitch shifter with acceptable
efforts/costs.
But the VC DSP module will include a pitch shifter. Let's see how it
works/sounds and if 1V/Oct control is possible. We are still working on this
module and will have to find out if it can be made.

> 2)
> A new sampler module, the curent one is great, but I want/need something
> that can be set to record via a gate signal, and has variable in and out
> (sample trim) points (this might be simerlar, the same as the Harvestman
> module, n´dont know, havent got one... yet)

Probably the planned digital delay module will be able to do this job (but I
cannot promise it at this state of the design, we will have to find out if
the calculation power of the microcontroller is sufficient for these
additional features)

3a)
> This ones more fuzzy... I imagine a filter, that is at one end of its
range
> a regular filter, which REMOVES frequencys from an input, but at the other
> end ADDs frequencies. Soft to harsh in one box. variable (CV-able)
Freqency
> cutoff/add, Q control, and someway to vary continously the frequencys you
> are cutting and adding...

A combination of the wave multiplier A-137-1 (adds frequencies/harmonics)
and a low pass filter ?

> 3b)
> Also filters always have a switch to choose whether its a Low pass, Band
> pass or high pass... why not 2 variable controls one for the bottom limits
> of the filter one for the top limits. So if the Bottom control was at 0
and
> the Top at 3 you get a Low pass, Bottom is at 6 top is at 10, you  get a
High
> pass, Bottom is at 3, top is at 6, you get a band pass?

Technically no problem but would increase the price of a filter clearly (for
some filters it would double the price or even more) as one needs a three
way VC mixer (i.e. 3 VCAs with a common output) and a small morphing
controller like the A-144 but with 3 outputs only. You can realize this with
existing modules: A-135 and A-144.

> 4)
> Oh and I want a simple combination VCA and AR module, 2 at least in one
> panel...(just an audio in out and a gate input for each) I REALLY REALLY
> HATE having to patch a ADSR to a VCA everytime... and I NEVER use
> D or S... cos Im always sequencing/triggering, not playing a keyboard.

That's already on our to-do-list (another A-143-x module): a quad VCA with
separate A/R generator for each VCA
b.t.w. some more economically priced quad modules are in the holding
pattern: a quad VCLFO/VCO, a quad VCA with common/separate CV controls and
common/separate outputs, and the mentioned quad VCA/AR.

>
> Mark
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> www.looop.no
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

ok, so'll keep in mind idea #3b for a poll. the others are probably covered...


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de> wrote:

From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo@doepfer.de>
Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Let me hear your bright new ideas for future
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:41 AM






You find some comments inline

Dieter Doepfer

> 1)
> As someone who likes to run external audio signals thru my modular (guitar
> mostly) I would like a pitch SHIFTER... But with all the tweakage one
would
> expect on a modular, and a quantiser built in. The ability to have a
> sequencer (155) play a tune on an oscillator AND change the pitch shifting
> on a pitch shifter would be great... I curently do this by routing CVs out
> to the pedal input of a stomp box pitch shifter, but its not giving known
> pitches that are musically the same as 1 octave per volt. So this would be
> lovely!!

Currently I see no way to built an analog pitch shifter with acceptable
efforts/costs.
But the VC DSP module will include a pitch shifter. Let's see how it
works/sounds and if 1V/Oct control is possible. We are still working on this
module and will have to find out if it can be made.

> 2)
> A new sampler module, the curent one is great, but I want/need something
> that can be set to record via a gate signal, and has variable in and out
> (sample trim) points (this might be simerlar, the same as the Harvestman
> module, n´dont know, havent got one... yet)

Probably the planned digital delay module will be able to do this job (but I
cannot promise it at this state of the design, we will have to find out if
the calculation power of the microcontroller is sufficient for these
additional features)

3a)
> This ones more fuzzy... I imagine a filter, that is at one end of its
range
> a regular filter, which REMOVES frequencys from an input, but at the other
> end ADDs frequencies. Soft to harsh in one box. variable (CV-able)
Freqency
> cutoff/add, Q control, and someway to vary continously the frequencys you
> are cutting and adding...

A combination of the wave multiplier A-137-1 (adds frequencies/ harmonics)
and a low pass filter ?

> 3b)
> Also filters always have a switch to choose whether its a Low pass, Band
> pass or high pass... why not 2 variable controls one for the bottom limits
> of the filter one for the top limits. So if the Bottom control was at 0
and
> the Top at 3 you get a Low pass, Bottom is at 6 top is at 10, you get a
High
> pass, Bottom is at 3, top is at 6, you get a band pass?

Technically no problem but would increase the price of a filter clearly (for
some filters it would double the price or even more) as one needs a three
way VC mixer (i.e. 3 VCAs with a common output) and a small morphing
controller like the A-144 but with 3 outputs only. You can realize this with
existing modules: A-135 and A-144.

> 4)
> Oh and I want a simple combination VCA and AR module, 2 at least in one
> panel...(just an audio in out and a gate input for each) I REALLY REALLY
> HATE having to patch a ADSR to a VCA everytime... and I NEVER use
> D or S... cos Im always sequencing/triggeri ng, not playing a keyboard.

That's already on our to-do-list (another A-143-x module): a quad VCA with
separate A/R generator for each VCA
b.t.w. some more economically priced quad modules are in the holding
pattern: a quad VCLFO/VCO, a quad VCA with common/separate CV controls and
common/separate outputs, and the mentioned quad VCA/AR.

>
> Mark
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe. com
> http://vimeo. com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube. com/user/ markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace. com/markfrancomb e
> www.looop.no
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 














      

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I like the idea of that Quad VC-LFO Dieter!!!Any idea when this will be
available?

* holds back buying  the MFB dual vc-lfo *




On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>wrote:

>   ok, so'll keep in mind idea #3b for a poll. the others are probably
> covered...
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> www. DiN. org. uk
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> www. rubberrecords. gr
> Athens - Greece
>
> --- On Thu, 10/30/08, yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo%40doepfer.de> <
> yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo%40doepfer.de>> wrote:
>
> From: yahoo@doepfer.de <yahoo%40doepfer.de> <yahoo@doepfer.de<yahoo%40doepfer.de>
> >
> Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Let me hear your bright new ideas for
> future
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:41 AM
>
>
> You find some comments inline
>
> Dieter Doepfer
>
> > 1)
> > As someone who likes to run external audio signals thru my modular
> (guitar
> > mostly) I would like a pitch SHIFTER... But with all the tweakage one
> would
> > expect on a modular, and a quantiser built in. The ability to have a
> > sequencer (155) play a tune on an oscillator AND change the pitch
> shifting
> > on a pitch shifter would be great... I curently do this by routing CVs
> out
> > to the pedal input of a stomp box pitch shifter, but its not giving known
> > pitches that are musically the same as 1 octave per volt. So this would
> be
> > lovely!!
>
> Currently I see no way to built an analog pitch shifter with acceptable
> efforts/costs.
> But the VC DSP module will include a pitch shifter. Let's see how it
> works/sounds and if 1V/Oct control is possible. We are still working on
> this
> module and will have to find out if it can be made.
>
> > 2)
> > A new sampler module, the curent one is great, but I want/need something
> > that can be set to record via a gate signal, and has variable in and out
> > (sample trim) points (this might be simerlar, the same as the Harvestman
> > module, n´dont know, havent got one... yet)
>
> Probably the planned digital delay module will be able to do this job (but
> I
> cannot promise it at this state of the design, we will have to find out if
> the calculation power of the microcontroller is sufficient for these
> additional features)
>
> 3a)
> > This ones more fuzzy... I imagine a filter, that is at one end of its
> range
> > a regular filter, which REMOVES frequencys from an input, but at the
> other
> > end ADDs frequencies. Soft to harsh in one box. variable (CV-able)
> Freqency
> > cutoff/add, Q control, and someway to vary continously the frequencys you
> > are cutting and adding...
>
> A combination of the wave multiplier A-137-1 (adds frequencies/ harmonics)
> and a low pass filter ?
>
> > 3b)
> > Also filters always have a switch to choose whether its a Low pass, Band
> > pass or high pass... why not 2 variable controls one for the bottom
> limits
> > of the filter one for the top limits. So if the Bottom control was at 0
> and
> > the Top at 3 you get a Low pass, Bottom is at 6 top is at 10, you get a
> High
> > pass, Bottom is at 3, top is at 6, you get a band pass?
>
> Technically no problem but would increase the price of a filter clearly
> (for
> some filters it would double the price or even more) as one needs a three
> way VC mixer (i.e. 3 VCAs with a common output) and a small morphing
> controller like the A-144 but with 3 outputs only. You can realize this
> with
> existing modules: A-135 and A-144.
>
> > 4)
> > Oh and I want a simple combination VCA and AR module, 2 at least in one
> > panel...(just an audio in out and a gate input for each) I REALLY REALLY
> > HATE having to patch a ADSR to a VCA everytime... and I NEVER use
> > D or S... cos Im always sequencing/triggeri ng, not playing a keyboard.
>
> That's already on our to-do-list (another A-143-x module): a quad VCA with
> separate A/R generator for each VCA
> b.t.w. some more economically priced quad modules are in the holding
> pattern: a quad VCLFO/VCO, a quad VCA with common/separate CV controls and
> common/separate outputs, and the mentioned quad VCA/AR.
>
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > www.markfrancombe. com
> > http://vimeo. com/user825094
> > http://uk.youtube. com/user/ markfrancombe
> > http://www.myspace. com/markfrancomb e
> > www.looop.no
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Hi there!

While I was reading all these messages on future modules and  
interaction with computers, an idea sprung up in my mind: a hardware  
box of, let's say 16 CV generators, that connects to a computer thru  
USB, that runs a software for sequencing those CV outputs. The  
sequences are ideally not MIDI based, but use a exclusive hi-res  
format (the idea of breaking a normally continuous CV signal into 127  
steps is not a good idea). Sequences can be created either with a  
graphic editor that uses curves (including bezier curves) or with some  
sort of a step editor. The user can dedicate some of the CV outs as  
LFOs that they can draw on the screen. This software should be able to  
sync with other MIDI/Audio sequencers so that the user can combine  
computer sounds, etc with their modular.

Would this be insanely expensive? Or is there already a box like this  
(leaving the MIDI-2-CV converters out)

Korhan

isn't that the same with the proposed (USB) OSC to cv/gate module?


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
www. parallel - worlds - music. com
www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
www. DiN. org. uk
www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
www. shimarecords. co. uk
www. rubberrecords. gr
Athens - Greece

--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Korhan Erel <listekutusu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Korhan Erel <listekutusu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Let me hear your bright new ideas for future
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 10:08 AM






Hi there!

While I was reading all these messages on future modules and 
interaction with computers, an idea sprung up in my mind: a hardware 
box of, let's say 16 CV generators, that connects to a computer thru 
USB, that runs a software for sequencing those CV outputs. The 
sequences are ideally not MIDI based, but use a exclusive hi-res 
format (the idea of breaking a normally continuous CV signal into 127 
steps is not a good idea). Sequences can be created either with a 
graphic editor that uses curves (including bezier curves) or with some 
sort of a step editor. The user can dedicate some of the CV outs as 
LFOs that they can draw on the screen. This software should be able to 
sync with other MIDI/Audio sequencers so that the user can combine 
computer sounds, etc with their modular.

Would this be insanely expensive? Or is there already a box like this 
(leaving the MIDI-2-CV converters out)

Korhan 

 














      

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Hi Bakis,

Apologies if that's already been discussed. I am a bit behind the mass  
of emails on this subject and may have missed it. I am glad that  
someone else has already suggested it.

Korhan

On 01.Kas.2008, at 10:22, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> isn't that the same with the proposed (USB) OSC to cv/gate module?
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> www. DiN. org. uk
> www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> www. shimarecords. co. uk
> www. rubberrecords. gr
> Athens - Greece
>
> --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Korhan Erel <listekutusu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Korhan Erel <listekutusu@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Let me hear your bright new  
> ideas for future
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 10:08 AM
>
> Hi there!
>
> While I was reading all these messages on future modules and
> interaction with computers, an idea sprung up in my mind: a hardware
> box of, let's say 16 CV generators, that connects to a computer thru
> USB, that runs a software for sequencing those CV outputs. The
> sequences are ideally not MIDI based, but use a exclusive hi-res
> format (the idea of breaking a normally continuous CV signal into 127
> steps is not a good idea). Sequences can be created either with a
> graphic editor that uses curves (including bezier curves) or with some
> sort of a step editor. The user can dedicate some of the CV outs as
> LFOs that they can draw on the screen. This software should be able to
> sync with other MIDI/Audio sequencers so that the user can combine
> computer sounds, etc with their modular.
>
> Would this be insanely expensive? Or is there already a box like this
> (leaving the MIDI-2-CV converters out)
>
> Korhan
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



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> I like the idea of that Quad VC-LFO Dieter!!!Any idea when this will be
> available?

As mentioned on our website early in 2009. Currently we are about to find
out if the design can be used also as a quad VCO with 1V/octave and
sufficient temperature stability with some improvements (with additional
switch between VCLFO and VCO).

Best wishes
Dieter

That is a nice idea, 4 VCO's on a module with a VCLFO option, good
proposition.
 
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> I like the idea of that Quad VC-LFO Dieter!!!Any idea when this will
be
> available?

As mentioned on our website early in 2009. Currently we are about to
find
out if the design can be used also as a quad VCO with 1V/octave and
sufficient temperature stability with some improvements (with additional
switch between VCLFO and VCO).

Best wishes
Dieter



 


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