Doepfer

Hello... looking for a bit of insight.

I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.

I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not sure in what way. 

Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.

thanks

Ken

I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been using
with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex waveforms to
get a less random sequence.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>   Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
>
> I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's
> Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
>
> I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not
> sure in what way.
>
> Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.
>
> thanks
>
> Ken
>
>  
>


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Here are a few S&H uses I have done before:

Use the S&H patched into the PWM input of a VCO and have it stepped by  
the gate from the Keyboard/Sequencer etc. this way every note played  
has a different timbre. Of course the filter can be used to.

Patch the S&H into a slew limiter (A-170) and then into the Voltage  
controlled panner (A-134). Have a pretty slow clock running the S&H.  
This can then be random panning or random mixing of two sounds if  
using the mix output.

Doing the same but into a Morphing controller (A-144) running 4 VCAa  
and you can get random Quad panning or mixing. Random Wavestation  
sounds there.

The S&H patched into a slew limiter creates a great source for  
"wobbly" control voltages that are great for rumbling and bubbling  
noises when controlling filters. More control than just using dark  
noise as a CV.

Of course feeding the S&H with a low frequency periodic waveform or  
mix of a few and then patching that into a quantizer will give you a  
great "Wacko Jazz" bass line or two. Keep those recorders running on  
that one though - you may never be able to get that same bass line  
again. Perfect for chopping up later in Abelton though.

There are a few - I'll send more if I think of them and this thread is  
still going.

-James
On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Alex Pearson wrote:

> I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have  
> been using
> with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex  
> waveforms to
> get a less random sequence.
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> >
> > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring  
> Logan's
> > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> >
> > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I  
> am not
> > sure in what way.
> >
> > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches,  
> pointers.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
> 



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You can use it together with a clock(divider) to quantise triggers.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Pearson <alexpears@gmail.com> wrote:

>   I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been
> using
> with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex waveforms
> to
> get a less random sequence.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@yahoo.co.uk<kenneth_harte%40yahoo.co.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> >
> > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's
> > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> >
> > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not
> > sure in what way.
> >
> > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Thanks for your replies. I am not sure what mean by quantizing my triggers???

I will try out all of the tips mentioned. At least those for which I have the modules.

thanks Ken


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@...> wrote:

>
> You can use it together with a clock(divider) to quantise triggers.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Pearson <alexpears@...> wrote:
> 
> >   I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been
> > using
> > with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex waveforms
> > to
> > get a less random sequence.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@...<kenneth_harte%40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> > >
> > > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's
> > > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> > >
> > > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not
> > > sure in what way.
> > >
> > > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi, 
You can also try using it as the SnH in a ADC/DAC and obtain some kind of low frequency sampling effect with hardcore aliasing.
Feed the sample input with the sound you want to process and feed the trigger input with a rather high frequency LFO or VCO. The SnH output is your audio effect output. Then try tuning the VCO or LFO to the sound you're processing or crating patterns and sequences with the VCO frequency. Did once on a master ... was lots of fun =)




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <kenneth_harte@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks for your replies. I am not sure what mean by quantizing my triggers???
> 
> I will try out all of the tips mentioned. At least those for which I have the modules.
> 
> thanks Ken
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> >
> > You can use it together with a clock(divider) to quantise triggers.
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Pearson <alexpears@> wrote:
> > 
> > >   I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been
> > > using
> > > with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex waveforms
> > > to
> > > get a less random sequence.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@<kenneth_harte%40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> > > >
> > > > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's
> > > > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> > > >
> > > > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not
> > > > sure in what way.
> > > >
> > > > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi Ken,

If you "sample" triggers (from a keyboard or something else that puts out
triggers) and triggering the S&H with a clock, you will get from the output
triggers which are quantised to the clock. It is sort of an "AND" logic
function.

Regards,
Robbert

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>   Thanks for your replies. I am not sure what mean by quantizing my
> triggers???
>
> I will try out all of the tips mentioned. At least those for which I have
> the modules.
>
> thanks Ken
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@...> wrote:
> >
> > You can use it together with a clock(divider) to quantise triggers.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Pearson <alexpears@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been
> > > using
> > > with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex
> waveforms
> > > to
> > > get a less random sequence.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@...<kenneth_harte%
> 40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> > > >
> > > > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring
> Logan's
> > > > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> > > >
> > > > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am
> not
> > > > sure in what way.
> > > >
> > > > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches,
> pointers.
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Ok that's sound good... use the S&H as an effects processor. That never crossed my mind. I'll be jammin' today so I can try out that patch and the quantizing triggers patch.

Cheers.

Ken

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Maxime" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, 
> You can also try using it as the SnH in a ADC/DAC and obtain some kind of low frequency sampling effect with hardcore aliasing.
> Feed the sample input with the sound you want to process and feed the trigger input with a rather high frequency LFO or VCO. The SnH output is your audio effect output. Then try tuning the VCO or LFO to the sound you're processing or crating patterns and sequences with the VCO frequency. Did once on a master ... was lots of fun =)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <kenneth_harte@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your replies. I am not sure what mean by quantizing my triggers???
> > 
> > I will try out all of the tips mentioned. At least those for which I have the modules.
> > 
> > thanks Ken
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You can use it together with a clock(divider) to quantise triggers.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Alex Pearson <alexpears@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >   I also would be interested in some inspiration. One thing I have been
> > > > using
> > > > with my sample and hold as of late is inputting min/max complex waveforms
> > > > to
> > > > get a less random sequence.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Ken <kenneth_harte@<kenneth_harte%40yahoo.co.uk>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello... looking for a bit of insight.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a S&H module and I always uses it to make the same boring Logan's
> > > > > Run style filter and pitch BeBaBoDaBeDeohba... pretty lame.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know S&H can be used in more creative ways, technical ways but I am not
> > > > > sure in what way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like I said just looking for a bit of insight or a few patches, pointers.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > 
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