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a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

2009-03-26 by madapples1

I did a search of the database and didn't see anything describing this.

I just got a used a-132 dual voltage controlled amplifier.  The upper VCA is functioning properly.  The lower VCA is not working properly.  It has a very low output and "thumps" or "pops" when it opens/closes no matter what signal I use to open it.  There's a very large difference in the upper and lower channels.  

I was passing audio through it and opening it with an LFO.  The upper channel behaves as expected but the lower does not with the same signals.  

I also have another A-132 and both channels function very similar and are similar to the upper channel on the problematic module.

Anyone have any ideas where to look for the problem?

AW: [Doepfer_a100] a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

2009-03-26 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> I did a search of the database and didn't see anything describing this.
>
> I just got a used a-132 dual voltage controlled amplifier.  The
> upper VCA is functioning properly.  The lower VCA is not working
> properly.  It has a very low output and "thumps" or "pops" when
> it opens/closes no matter what signal I use to open it.  There's
> a very large difference in the upper and lower channels.
>
> I was passing audio through it and opening it with an LFO.  The
> upper channel behaves as expected but the lower does not with the
> same signals.
>
> I also have another A-132 and both channels function very similar
> and are similar to the upper channel on the problematic module.
>
> Anyone have any ideas where to look for the problem?

From the distance it's difficult to find out what's wrong. If you are
experienced with electronics you could swap the integrated circuits of the
upper and lower section to find out if one of the integrated circuits is
defective. Maybe the module has to be readjusted (nothing but minimizing the
"plop" input connected to GND and e.g. an ADSR as CV).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Re: a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

2009-03-26 by madapples1

yes, I understand it can be difficult to trouble shoot like this.  Thanks for the reply.

I thought about swapping the ICs to see if it follows one but wanted to ask first.  I will try that.

Thanks again.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:
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>
> > I did a search of the database and didn't see anything describing this.
> >
> > I just got a used a-132 dual voltage controlled amplifier.  The
> > upper VCA is functioning properly.  The lower VCA is not working
> > properly.  It has a very low output and "thumps" or "pops" when
> > it opens/closes no matter what signal I use to open it.  There's
> > a very large difference in the upper and lower channels.
> >
> > I was passing audio through it and opening it with an LFO.  The
> > upper channel behaves as expected but the lower does not with the
> > same signals.
> >
> > I also have another A-132 and both channels function very similar
> > and are similar to the upper channel on the problematic module.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas where to look for the problem?
> 
> From the distance it's difficult to find out what's wrong. If you are
> experienced with electronics you could swap the integrated circuits of the
> upper and lower section to find out if one of the integrated circuits is
> defective. Maybe the module has to be readjusted (nothing but minimizing the
> "plop" input connected to GND and e.g. an ADSR as CV).
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

2009-03-26 by achtung_999

I had the same problem recently when I ordered one from Thomann.
I send it back and they send me a new one having the same problem.
I ended up buying some new ICs myself and solved the problem that way.

I'm curious if you ordered it a thomann as well..

greetings,

Ernst
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM, madapples1 <rusty0306@msn.com> wrote:
> yes, I understand it can be difficult to trouble shoot like this. Thanks for
> the reply.
>
> I thought about swapping the ICs to see if it follows one but wanted to ask
> first. I will try that.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@...> wrote:
>>
>> > I did a search of the database and didn't see anything describing this.
>> >
>> > I just got a used a-132 dual voltage controlled amplifier. The
>> > upper VCA is functioning properly. The lower VCA is not working
>> > properly. It has a very low output and "thumps" or "pops" when
>> > it opens/closes no matter what signal I use to open it. There's
>> > a very large difference in the upper and lower channels.
>> >
>> > I was passing audio through it and opening it with an LFO. The
>> > upper channel behaves as expected but the lower does not with the
>> > same signals.
>> >
>> > I also have another A-132 and both channels function very similar
>> > and are similar to the upper channel on the problematic module.
>> >
>> > Anyone have any ideas where to look for the problem?
>>
>> From the distance it's difficult to find out what's wrong. If you are
>> experienced with electronics you could swap the integrated circuits of the
>> upper and lower section to find out if one of the integrated circuits is
>> defective. Maybe the module has to be readjusted (nothing but minimizing
>> the
>> "plop" input connected to GND and e.g. an ADSR as CV).
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Dieter Doepfer
>>
>
>

Re: a-132 dual VCA low output / thump

2009-03-27 by madapples1

No, I bought it used.  I tried Dieter's suggestion and swapped ICs and it was a CA3080E.  I've ordered a replacement IC so it should work out OK.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@...> wrote:
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>
> I had the same problem recently when I ordered one from Thomann.
> I send it back and they send me a new one having the same problem.
> I ended up buying some new ICs myself and solved the problem that way.
> 
> I'm curious if you ordered it a thomann as well..
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM, madapples1 <rusty0306@...> wrote:
> > yes, I understand it can be difficult to trouble shoot like this. Thanks for
> > the reply.
> >
> > I thought about swapping the ICs to see if it follows one but wanted to ask
> > first. I will try that.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <yahoo@> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I did a search of the database and didn't see anything describing this.
> >> >
> >> > I just got a used a-132 dual voltage controlled amplifier. The
> >> > upper VCA is functioning properly. The lower VCA is not working
> >> > properly. It has a very low output and "thumps" or "pops" when
> >> > it opens/closes no matter what signal I use to open it. There's
> >> > a very large difference in the upper and lower channels.
> >> >
> >> > I was passing audio through it and opening it with an LFO. The
> >> > upper channel behaves as expected but the lower does not with the
> >> > same signals.
> >> >
> >> > I also have another A-132 and both channels function very similar
> >> > and are similar to the upper channel on the problematic module.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone have any ideas where to look for the problem?
> >>
> >> From the distance it's difficult to find out what's wrong. If you are
> >> experienced with electronics you could swap the integrated circuits of the
> >> upper and lower section to find out if one of the integrated circuits is
> >> defective. Maybe the module has to be readjusted (nothing but minimizing
> >> the
> >> "plop" input connected to GND and e.g. an ADSR as CV).
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >> Dieter Doepfer
> >>
> >
> >
>

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