> On Oct 11, 2014, at 11:18 AM, "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Building things is beyond my abilities I'm afraid - so I tend not to look at kits etc for fear of disappointment.
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> David
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> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 11 Oct 2014, at 15:04, Nicholas Keller maq163x2@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Something that piqued my interest about that Barton User Writable Quantizer I linked to earlier
>> http://www.bartonmusicalcircuits.com/uwq/
>> is the bi-polar function....although after further review, this is only an offset on the output, not the input. So presumably an LFO sent to be quantized would result in the low phase of the cycle being all one low note, just like the A-156.
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>> Does anyone know of a quantizer with a built-in front-end offset for bi-polar input? Or is it always up to the owner to insert an offset module pre-quantizer? You could argue that this Barton UWQ module does have input offset as there is an auxiliary CV input with attenuator that is summed with the main CV Input, and if you wired the Aux In socket's NC terminal to the +5V power source, you would have a built-in front-end offset at the expense of having no input for Transpose. Perhaps an extra input for transpose could be added easily enough to the summing point.
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>> Nick
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>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 3:59 PM, "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Ahhh but better that than equal temperament- in all keys not very well!!
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>>> David
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>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 19:34, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>> So long as all the pieces you play are all in the same key! (Or you know a *really* quick piano tuner)
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>>>> Martin
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>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 19:06, "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Most musics of the world are in forms of microtonality - it is only really western music that decided to carve the octave up into equal steps. If you divide the octave up with reference to the harmonic series you get microtonal scales. It's part of the reason that I like it - apart from the sound - it just fits the natural order of things a bit better than Equal Temperament.
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>>>>> Obviously it's a personal choice through......
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>>>>> It's worth checking out La Monte Young's Well Tuned Piano if you can or Terry Riley's Harp Of The New Albion - once you have heard a concert grand piano tuned in just intonation equal tempered pianos never sound very good again!! Also Pauline Olliveros's Roots of the Moment CD - just intonation tuned accordion with time lag accumulator digital processing.
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>>>>> David
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>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 17:18, achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> And, not unimportantly, people in the so called "old music" and Baroque music scenes are still verbally slaying each other over that one Martin :D
>>>>>> Not everyone agrees on which tuning Bach intended that collection of pieces to be played in.
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>>>>>> Ernst
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>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Martin Fay martin@martinfay.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Intonation or temperament are other terms for micro-tuning, it was a big thing a few centuries ago when keyboard instruments were being invented. "The Well Tempered Klavier" by Bach is a historic reference to this.
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>>>>>>> Martin
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>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 10:12, "achtung_999 heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> This thread is getting better and better! Thanks for all the other mentioned alternatives.
>>>>>>>> Nicholas what do you mean with AFX scales? Microtonal tuning existed several decades before Richard D. James began talking about it last month ;-)
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>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:44 AM, David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Yep.
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>>>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
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>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 02:43, Nicholas Keller maq163x2@gmail.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> That A.Sys one doesn't do eastern or "AFX" scales either, only semitones in various configurations
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>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the future
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 8:07 PM, "Loren Nerell lnerell@earthlink.net [Doepfer_a100]" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> How about Analogue Systems RS130, Programmable Scale Generator?
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>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/modules/rs130.htm
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>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "David Kellett davidkellettwoulf@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100]"
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Oct 9, 2014 5:06 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com"
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Quantizing to Alternative tuning
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>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
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>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a module or modules that could be set up to take control voltages and quantized them to a non western scale. I'm thinking about making a price of music that is tuned to harmonics and would like to be able to quantize sequencers, other controllers to pitches that I determine beforehand. I hope that makes sense.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Of course I could laboriously tune sequencers to the correct pitches but I don't know how to do this with say the output of a random or LFO source or ribbon controller etc.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
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>>>>>>>>>>> David
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>>>>>>>>>>> www.movingisliving.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Loren
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