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> Op 18 mei 2018 om 07:40 heeft Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> Hello everybody,
> 
> Hope someone can help me somehow
> 
> I have a simple patch involving this module:
> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks: extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem - it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course, the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH… 
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> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any hint please?
> 
> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
> 
> Best regards, Diego
> 
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> Il giorno 18 mag 2018, alle ore 08:05, Jacco Ville jaccoville@yahoo.com [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> Maybe use a noisegate in front of the A119?
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> 
> Sent from my IPhone. 
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> Op 18 mei 2018 om 07:40 heeft Diego Ragnini diegora@free.fr <mailto:diegora@free.fr> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>> het volgende geschreven:
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>>  
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> Hope someone can help me somehow
>> 
>> I have a simple patch involving this module:
>> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks: extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem - it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course, the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH… 
>> 
>> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any hint please?
>> 
>> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
>> 
>> Best regards, Diego
>> 
> 
>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 07:41
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] A simple patch with the A-119
> Ext.Input/Env.Follower
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>
> Hello everybody,
>
> Hope someone can help me somehow
>
> I have a simple patch involving this module:
> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks:
> extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create
> gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem -
> it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the
> previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course,
> the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH…
>
> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold
> knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any hint please?
>
> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold
> stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
>
> Best regards, Diego
>
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> Posted by: Diego Ragnini <diegora@free.fr>
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> Il giorno 18 mag 2018, alle ore 11:04, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> Hello,
> 
> in principle it should work. As you suppose the gate is simply derived from
> the envelope signal by means of a comparator with adjustable threshold. I'd
> recommend to set the threshold fully clockwise (max. threshold value, about
> +9V) and then reduce the gain until the gate output behaves as desired.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 07:41
>> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] A simple patch with the A-119
>> Ext.Input/Env.Follower
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> Hope someone can help me somehow
>> 
>> I have a simple patch involving this module:
>> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks:
>> extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create
>> gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem -
>> it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the
>> previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course,
>> the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH…
>> 
>> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold
>> knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any hint please?
>> 
>> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold
>> stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
>> 
>> Best regards, Diego
>> 
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>> Posted by: Diego Ragnini <diegora@free.fr>
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>> Yahoo Groups Links
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> Il giorno 18 mag 2018, alle ore 11:04, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> in principle it should work. As you suppose the gate is simply derived from
> the envelope signal by means of a comparator with adjustable threshold. I'd
> recommend to set the threshold fully clockwise (max. threshold value, about
> +9V) and then reduce the gain until the gate output behaves as desired.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 07:41
>> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] A simple patch with the A-119
>> Ext.Input/Env.Follower
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> Hope someone can help me somehow
>> 
>> I have a simple patch involving this module:
>> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks:
>> extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create
>> gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem -
>> it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the
>> previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course,
>> the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH…
>> 
>> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold
>> knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any hint please?
>> 
>> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold
>> stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
>> 
>> Best regards, Diego
>> 
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>> Posted by: Diego Ragnini <diegora@free.fr>
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>> Yahoo Groups Links
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Mai 2018 00:31
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A simple patch with the A-119
> Ext.Input/Env.Follower
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> Sorry Dieter, is the hysteresis concerned by this situation?
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> > Il giorno 18 mag 2018, alle ore 11:04, yahoo@doepfer.de
> [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > in principle it should work. As you suppose the gate is simply
> derived from
> > the envelope signal by means of a comparator with adjustable
> threshold. I'd
> > recommend to set the threshold fully clockwise (max. threshold
> value, about
> > +9V) and then reduce the gain until the gate output behaves as desired.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]
> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Mai 2018 07:41
> >> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] A simple patch with the A-119
> >> Ext.Input/Env.Follower
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello everybody,
> >>
> >> Hope someone can help me somehow
> >>
> >> I have a simple patch involving this module:
> >> A mult signal from electric rhythmic guitar (muted peaks:
> >> extremely transient short envelopes) feeds the module to create
> >> gates which in turn are used to trigger MI Rings. The problem -
> >> it seems to me - is that a further gate is not created until the
> >> previous guitar peak is not completely “silenced”… : of course,
> >> the module cannot generate a new gate until the previous is HIGH…
> >>
> >> I had tried to manage the thing by the means of the threshold
> >> knob but it doesn’t solve (and this is strange)… Anybody any
> hint please?
> >>
> >> I do believe the module includes a comparator at the threshold
> >> stage: should I try using another comparator in the patch?
> >>
> >> Best regards, Diego
> >>
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> >> Posted by: Diego Ragnini <diegora@free.fr>
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> >> Yahoo Groups Links
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> Posted by: Diego Ragnini <diegora@free.fr>
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> Il giorno 22 mag 2018, alle ore 11:42, yahoo@doepfer.de [Doepfer_a100] <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> The hysteresis of the A-119 comparator is fixed (defined by the resistor
> R28) and cannot be changed like the A-167 which has a Gap control.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>