Doepfer

Hans,

I was serious in my offer.  If you don't want your A112 any more, 
email me.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "hans greuber" 
<turbotron69@h...> wrote:
> Dear Florian :
> 
> . So if you were so stupid (sorry that I am getting that rigid) to
> >buy a module, that was known to you as not being usable, no one 
will be
> >able to help you. Would you buy wintertyres for a Volvo if you own 
a Saab -
> >only because both are funny northern european car manufactureres?
> 
> > > Did they know that almost eveybody in
> > > the music community uses mac ?( well nowadays that is changing).
> >Sorry to say, but according to a person how is involved in 
merketing
> >research at a well known music software house which was acquired 
by Apple
> >recently, the Mac is used by around 9 to 12 percent in the MIDI-
orientated
> >music communitty.
> 
> Well ,but maybe not in the professional side.
> >
> > > The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg ms ones ,to me 
the 
> >worst
> > > enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and has no body or 
punch
> > > compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per example.
> >?????????????????? An envelope cannot have punch or something like 
that. It
> >all depends on what the envelope is controlling.
> 
> >What may be different is the VCA of an Korg or an SH101 or the 
kind of
> >patch that YOU are wiring on an A100. So talking about the "punch 
of an
> >envelope", you should complain about yourself, that you do not 
understand
> >what you are doing, but not about Doepfer or Korg or Roland.
> 
> Man,you should go to a doctor ,or clean your ears,I thing your are 
deaf. 
> Because everytime I connect my AS envelope ,or my sh-101 envelope  
modular 
> to the same patch it HAS lot more punch than Doepfer ADSR
> >
> > > and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST sounding 
filter I have 
> >ever
> > > heard,and can´t be compared to other brand ones.
> >Oehm, urps, any around 30 other synths on the world use the same 
circuit (I
> >don't mean the chip, I mean the schematic), so tell me the 
difference. Or
> >is it again, that you don't know what you are talking about... ?
> 
> And for that is it good ? right is right no matter how many say the 
opposite
> 
> No offense here but I thing is is you who don´t know what are 
talking about 
> or can have a right point of view
> because I thing you are in deep love with mr. Dieter and that 
blinds you 
> "man".
> 
> Best :
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
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Dear Florian :

. So if you were so stupid (sorry that I am getting that rigid) to
>buy a module, that was known to you as not being usable, no one will be
>able to help you. Would you buy wintertyres for a Volvo if you own a Saab -
>only because both are funny northern european car manufactureres?

> > Did they know that almost eveybody in
> > the music community uses mac ?( well nowadays that is changing).
>Sorry to say, but according to a person how is involved in merketing
>research at a well known music software house which was acquired by Apple
>recently, the Mac is used by around 9 to 12 percent in the MIDI-orientated
>music communitty.

Well ,but maybe not in the professional side.
>
> > The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg ms ones ,to me the 
>worst
> > enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and has no body or punch
> > compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per example.
>?????????????????? An envelope cannot have punch or something like that. It
>all depends on what the envelope is controlling.

>What may be different is the VCA of an Korg or an SH101 or the kind of
>patch that YOU are wiring on an A100. So talking about the "punch of an
>envelope", you should complain about yourself, that you do not understand
>what you are doing, but not about Doepfer or Korg or Roland.

Man,you should go to a doctor ,or clean your ears,I thing your are deaf. 
Because everytime I connect my AS envelope ,or my sh-101 envelope  modular 
to the same patch it HAS lot more punch than Doepfer ADSR
>
> > and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST sounding filter I have 
>ever
> > heard,and can´t be compared to other brand ones.
>Oehm, urps, any around 30 other synths on the world use the same circuit (I
>don't mean the chip, I mean the schematic), so tell me the difference. Or
>is it again, that you don't know what you are talking about... ?

And for that is it good ? right is right no matter how many say the opposite

No offense here but I thing is is you who don´t know what are talking about 
or can have a right point of view
because I thing you are in deep love with mr. Dieter and that blinds you 
"man".

Best :

Hans


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Localiza y ponte en contacto con tus antiguos compañeros de clase en MSN 
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hi hans and florian,
let's calm down a little,ok???we're all musicians
after all.we should colaborate with each other, not
fight each other,right???
by the way:i have the sh101 and the AS adsr's and many
doepfer adsr's.they all sound wonderful ,when
connected in the right way.hans ,you probably hear
difference in the result because they have a different
max voltage output each...:-)how could you need more
punch ,when the doepfer adsr's clicks in 0 attack
settings when you have it even in medium range?
bakis.



--- hans greuber <turbotron69@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Florian :
> 
> . So if you were so stupid (sorry that I am getting
> that rigid) to
> >buy a module, that was known to you as not being
> usable, no one will be
> >able to help you. Would you buy wintertyres for a
> Volvo if you own a Saab -
> >only because both are funny northern european car
> manufactureres?
> 
> > > Did they know that almost eveybody in
> > > the music community uses mac ?( well nowadays
> that is changing).
> >Sorry to say, but according to a person how is
> involved in merketing
> >research at a well known music software house which
> was acquired by Apple
> >recently, the Mac is used by around 9 to 12 percent
> in the MIDI-orientated
> >music communitty.
> 
> Well ,but maybe not in the professional side.
> >
> > > The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg
> ms ones ,to me the 
> >worst
> > > enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and
> has no body or punch
> > > compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per
> example.
> >?????????????????? An envelope cannot have punch or
> something like that. It
> >all depends on what the envelope is controlling.
> 
> >What may be different is the VCA of an Korg or an
> SH101 or the kind of
> >patch that YOU are wiring on an A100. So talking
> about the "punch of an
> >envelope", you should complain about yourself, that
> you do not understand
> >what you are doing, but not about Doepfer or Korg
> or Roland.
> 
> Man,you should go to a doctor ,or clean your ears,I
> thing your are deaf. 
> Because everytime I connect my AS envelope ,or my
> sh-101 envelope  modular 
> to the same patch it HAS lot more punch than Doepfer
> ADSR
> >
> > > and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST
> sounding filter I have 
> >ever
> > > heard,and can�t be compared to other brand ones.
> >Oehm, urps, any around 30 other synths on the world
> use the same circuit (I
> >don't mean the chip, I mean the schematic), so tell
> me the difference. Or
> >is it again, that you don't know what you are
> talking about... ?
> 
> And for that is it good ? right is right no matter
> how many say the opposite
> 
> No offense here but I thing is is you who don�t know
> what are talking about 
> or can have a right point of view
> because I thing you are in deep love with mr. Dieter
> and that blinds you 
> "man".
> 
> Best :
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
>
_________________________________________________________________
> Localiza y ponte en contacto con tus antiguos
> compa�eros de clase en MSN 
> Compa�eros.  http://mipasado.msn.es/
> 
> 


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athens-greece
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Hi

moved this discussion to private mail with Franz Holzer in German. 

Florian