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2003-05-12 by Bakis Sirros
just check the vc highpass filter module(not the moog copy).it uses a curtis cem3320(like the a123 doepfer module)and it costs 295 euros(!!!!!).if this isn't inflated price.... bakis. ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
2003-05-12 by Brandon Daniel
On Mon, 12 May 2003, Bakis Sirros wrote: > just check the vc highpass filter module(not the moog > copy).it uses a curtis cem3320(like the a123 doepfer > module)and it costs 295 euros(!!!!!).if this isn't > inflated price.... Yeah, the non-moog clone are possibly too much for what they are, but then again, never underestimate the market for overpriced synthesizers, MOTM is supposedly doing quite well! -Brandon __________________________________ The last time anyone listened to a Bush they wandered through the desert for 40 years! ___________________________________
2003-05-12 by Josue Arias
> inflated price.... Yeah, the non-moog clone are possibly too much for what they are, but then again, never underestimate the market for overpriced synthesizers, MOTM is supposedly doing quite well! -Brandon MOTM don`t have inflated prices. I own several modulars from several manufactures and the MOTM quality is outstanding. For example: take in a electronics store 8 switchcraft 112 jacks (total 20$) 8 spectrol hi grade pots (total 50$) and 8 alco knobs (25$). You spent about 100$ and also you´ll need the pcb, the electronics, the front panel... Where is the inflated price??? Josue. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-05-12 by Brandon Daniel
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Josue Arias wrote: > MOTM don`t have inflated prices. I own several modulars from several manufactures and the MOTM quality is outstanding. For example: take in a electronics store 8 switchcraft 112 jacks (total 20$) 8 spectrol hi grade pots (total 50$) and 8 alco knobs (25$). You spent about 100$ and also you�ll need the pcb, the electronics, the front panel... Where is the inflated price??? Sure, but do we know that the CoK modules aren't using similarly over-spec'ed parts? The fact remains that both give sticker shock initially and require some amount of validation of what appears to be an inflated price. The question each synthesist then needs to ask themselves in the case of MOTM: "Do I value these over-spec'ed parts enough to make the price difference worth it"? That's a personal preference, not an automatic value. -Brandon ___________________________________ The last time anyone listened to a Bush they wandered through the desert for 40 years! ___________________________________
2003-05-13 by Andreas Lindholm
What do you mean with this, Brandon? "The fact remains that both give sticker shock initially and require some amount of validation of what appears to be an inflated price" Do you get shocks when inserting cables into modules of this brand or is this just a feeling you high prices? I happend to like motm, and if you build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices are just high enough to have kept me from buying it, but I can see why people do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Daniel" <bdu@fdiskc.com> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] OT:again ,about the club of the knobs... > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Josue Arias wrote: > > > MOTM don`t have inflated prices. I own several modulars from several manufactures and the MOTM quality is outstanding. For example: take in a electronics store 8 switchcraft 112 jacks (total 20$) 8 spectrol hi grade pots (total 50$) and 8 alco knobs (25$). You spent about 100$ and also you´ll need the pcb, the electronics, the front panel... Where is the inflated price???
> > Sure, but do we know that the CoK modules aren't using similarly > over-spec'ed parts? The fact remains that both give sticker shock > initially and require some amount of validation of what appears to be an > inflated price. The question each synthesist then needs to ask themselves > in the case of MOTM: "Do I value these over-spec'ed parts enough to make > the price difference worth it"? That's a personal preference, not an > automatic value. > > -Brandon > ___________________________________ > > The last time anyone listened > to a Bush they wandered through > the desert for 40 years! > ___________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
2003-05-13 by Brandon
5/12/2003 10:40:18 PM, "Andreas Lindholm" <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com> wrote: >What do you mean with this, Brandon? > >"The fact remains that both give sticker shock >initially and require some amount of validation of what appears to be an >inflated price" > >Do you get shocks when inserting cables into modules of this brand or is >this just a feeling you high prices? Sorry, I forget sometimes that people who are not native english speakers sometimes misunderstand special sayings like this. In english "Sticker Shock" means "surprise at a high price on an item". In the future I'll try to not use these kinds of phrases on lists that I know have a high percentage of non-english speakers on them. > I happend to like motm, and if you >build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices are just high enough to >have kept me from buying it, but I can see why people do. Yes, that was essentially what I was saying. Some people decide that the "better" hardware isn't worth the extra money, some people decide it is. -Brandon
2003-05-13 by Josue Arias
Ok, May be these part are over specs for some people, but not overpriced since you get that you pay.... Best regards, Josue.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Daniel" <bdu@fdiskc.com> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] OT:again ,about the club of the knobs... On Tue, 13 May 2003, Josue Arias wrote: > MOTM don`t have inflated prices. I own several modulars from several manufactures and the MOTM quality is outstanding. For example: take in a electronics store 8 switchcraft 112 jacks (total 20$) 8 spectrol hi grade pots (total 50$) and 8 alco knobs (25$). You spent about 100$ and also you´ll need the pcb, the electronics, the front panel... Where is the inflated price??? Sure, but do we know that the CoK modules aren't using similarly over-spec'ed parts? The fact remains that both give sticker shock initially and require some amount of validation of what appears to be an inflated price. The question each synthesist then needs to ask themselves in the case of MOTM: "Do I value these over-spec'ed parts enough to make the price difference worth it"? That's a personal preference, not an automatic value. -Brandon ___________________________________ The last time anyone listened to a Bush they wandered through the desert for 40 years! ___________________________________ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-05-13 by klamb000
Bakis, In spite of the fact that you're "European", with your little cars, and your little streets in your little cities, and your haute cuisine served on trendy little plates, and are wholly biased against MOTM and other US manufacturers of LARGE modules... umm, never mind. You're absolutely correct. Regards, Kevin Disclaimer: If you've taken the above comment as serious, I suggest you borrow or purchase a sense of humor. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hi list, > or some people think like i do:why buy a high-pass > filter from club of the knobs(or MOTM or such...)when > you can buy almost 4(!!!)high-pass doepfer filters for > the same money and have countless more ins,outs and > filter slopes,by combining all these modules in series > or parallel.... > bakis. > > > --- Brandon <bdu@f...> wrote: > > 5/12/2003 10:40:18 PM, "Andreas Lindholm" > > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote: > > > > >What do you mean with this, Brandon? > > > > > >"The fact remains that both give sticker shock > > >initially and require some amount of validation of > > what appears > > to be an > > >inflated price" > > > > > >Do you get shocks when inserting cables into > > modules of this > > brand or is > > >this just a feeling you high prices? > > > > Sorry, I forget sometimes that people who are not > > native english > > speakers sometimes misunderstand special sayings > > like this. > > > > In english "Sticker Shock" means "surprise at a high > > price on > > an item". > > > > In the future I'll try to not use these kinds of > > phrases on lists that > > I know have a high percentage of non-english > > speakers on > > them. > > > > > I happend to like motm, and if you > > >build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices > > are just high > > enough to > > >have kept me from buying it, but I can see why > > people do. > > > > Yes, that was essentially what I was saying. Some > > people > > decide that the "better" hardware isn't worth the > > extra money, > > some people decide it is. > > > > -Brandon > > > > > > > > > ===== > synthfreak(parallel worlds) > athens-greece > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com
2003-05-13 by Bakis Sirros
hi list, or some people think like i do:why buy a high-pass filter from club of the knobs(or MOTM or such...)when you can buy almost 4(!!!)high-pass doepfer filters for the same money and have countless more ins,outs and filter slopes,by combining all these modules in series or parallel.... bakis. --- Brandon <bdu@fdiskc.com> wrote: > 5/12/2003 10:40:18 PM, "Andreas Lindholm" > <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com> wrote: > > >What do you mean with this, Brandon? > > > >"The fact remains that both give sticker shock > >initially and require some amount of validation of > what appears > to be an > >inflated price" > > > >Do you get shocks when inserting cables into > modules of this > brand or is > >this just a feeling you high prices? > > Sorry, I forget sometimes that people who are not > native english > speakers sometimes misunderstand special sayings > like this. > > In english "Sticker Shock" means "surprise at a high > price on > an item". > > In the future I'll try to not use these kinds of > phrases on lists that > I know have a high percentage of non-english > speakers on > them. > > > I happend to like motm, and if you > >build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices > are just high > enough to > >have kept me from buying it, but I can see why > people do. > > Yes, that was essentially what I was saying. Some > people > decide that the "better" hardware isn't worth the > extra money, > some people decide it is. > > -Brandon > > > ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
2003-05-13 by Andreas Lindholm
I'd like to order one gallon of Us style humor, cause it seems to me that I always find things from the funny that are meant serious and vice versa ;) Speaking of very OT - is that deck of "wanted" cards a joke or not, and above all the new deck from the govenmental propaganda magazine that is targeting Susan Sarandon, Michel Moore and other critics. Please explain =) ----- Original Message -----
From: "klamb000" <lamb@charter.net> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: OT:again ,about the club of the knobs... > Bakis, > > In spite of the fact that you're "European", with your little cars, > and your little streets in your little cities, and your haute cuisine > served on trendy little plates, and are wholly biased against MOTM > and other US manufacturers of LARGE modules... umm, never mind. > You're absolutely correct. > > Regards, > Kevin > > Disclaimer: If you've taken the above comment as serious, I suggest > you borrow or purchase a sense of humor. > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote: > > hi list, > > or some people think like i do:why buy a high-pass > > filter from club of the knobs(or MOTM or such...)when > > you can buy almost 4(!!!)high-pass doepfer filters for > > the same money and have countless more ins,outs and > > filter slopes,by combining all these modules in series > > or parallel.... > > bakis. > > > > > > --- Brandon <bdu@f...> wrote: > > > 5/12/2003 10:40:18 PM, "Andreas Lindholm" > > > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote: > > > > > > >What do you mean with this, Brandon? > > > > > > > >"The fact remains that both give sticker shock > > > >initially and require some amount of validation of > > > what appears > > > to be an > > > >inflated price" > > > > > > > >Do you get shocks when inserting cables into > > > modules of this > > > brand or is > > > >this just a feeling you high prices? > > > > > > Sorry, I forget sometimes that people who are not > > > native english > > > speakers sometimes misunderstand special sayings > > > like this. > > > > > > In english "Sticker Shock" means "surprise at a high > > > price on > > > an item". > > > > > > In the future I'll try to not use these kinds of > > > phrases on lists that > > > I know have a high percentage of non-english > > > speakers on > > > them. > > > > > > > I happend to like motm, and if you > > > >build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices > > > are just high > > > enough to > > > >have kept me from buying it, but I can see why > > > people do. > > > > > > Yes, that was essentially what I was saying. Some > > > people > > > decide that the "better" hardware isn't worth the > > > extra money, > > > some people decide it is. > > > > > > -Brandon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > synthfreak(parallel worlds) > > athens-greece > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2003-05-13 by Andreas Lindholm
No problem Brandon. Feel free to use any local sayings you like it is always nice to learn something new. I am getting tired of that old "the straw that brakes the camels back" which by the way in swedish goes "little tuft of grass topples a chariot". What do you think, Bakis? ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon" <bdu@fdiskc.com> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] OT:again ,about the club of the knobs... > 5/12/2003 10:40:18 PM, "Andreas Lindholm" > <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com> wrote: > > >What do you mean with this, Brandon? > > > >"The fact remains that both give sticker shock > >initially and require some amount of validation of what appears > to be an > >inflated price" > > > >Do you get shocks when inserting cables into modules of this > brand or is > >this just a feeling you high prices? > > Sorry, I forget sometimes that people who are not native english > speakers sometimes misunderstand special sayings like this. > > In english "Sticker Shock" means "surprise at a high price on > an item". > > In the future I'll try to not use these kinds of phrases on lists that > I know have a high percentage of non-english speakers on > them. > > > I happend to like motm, and if you > >build the kits it gets cheaper. Still they prices are just high > enough to > >have kept me from buying it, but I can see why people do. > > Yes, that was essentially what I was saying. Some people > decide that the "better" hardware isn't worth the extra money, > some people decide it is. > > -Brandon > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >