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Re: synth pics

2003-06-03 by Roel Steverink

From:   davevosh@a...
Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your comments!

About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it about it looks? They all look
the same,
the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes it more adventurous in
look. MOTM design,
despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit boring. But, it's all about
taste I confess.
But when you look into it's functions, they are certainly adventurous!!! And
every modules,
contains in fact more modules!

About MOTM. They sure have nice range of modules, like a sub-octave
multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I bought Robert Rich - Bestiality
and I must say that this is the most extraordinaire album that has come out
recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36 modules strong MOTM-system.
It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!

When you talk about making music and speaking of "process automation
oriented, self-generating systems", your actually talking about ever
evolving pads?
Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads, you need a triple resonance
filter! If this is
true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for creating such patches!

Interesting answer talking about noise going into filter! But having all the
frequencies present, you should have the ability to make sounds, which lead
to bell or rich strings or something like that! I wonder what sound would
appear if you are sending white noise through a triple resonance filter???

Roel




Dave wrote:

>roel,
>what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate ! the "look" of the 300 series
>modules is a personal thing for everyone, some like it, others don`t. while
>the modules will be different from the 300 series, grant is also doing a
1200
>series in the frac-rac form factor and with more conventional (?) graphics.
>if
>you are looking to add some wiard, these might be worth a look.
>best,
dave

> What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> And are you going to buy more MOTM?


>roel,
>the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module. it has a smooth sound of
>its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of addition to a patch. very
>different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
>more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer, as funding and priorities
>allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting "3rd party" ( in the
context
>of
>this list) modules to choose from and prioritizing those choices is a
difficult
>thing sometimes.
>best,
dave

>actually more by accident than design. :^) i started with the 2 vcf`s in
>the bs1 when i first got the starter system. from there, 1 and 2 years
later, i
>added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my first module outside the
doepfer
>/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf came last year - i was
>curious about it primarily because of the sharp roll-off but its bandpass
>function
>is nice, too. probably late this year will come the morphing vcf, just
because
>it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c. processors, though, can be a good
>thing in some circumstances. for example, my primary interest is in what i
>think of as "process automation oriented, self-generating systems", what
others
>have called "dream machines" or "electric music boxes".
>being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes" is very useful.
>best,
dave

> . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> I have tried several times, but I only end up
> with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> What am I doing wrong here?
>

>roel,
>nothing that i can see just from the description - noise to vcf to output -
>but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" ( ? ) - sweeping a filter
>through the noise spectrum will pick out things that sound like "tuned
noise",
>a bit
>of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s effect on the noise. there
are,
>depending on your needs, a range of noise timbres that are different from
the
>"normal" noise you get from the basic generator although the "blue / red"
>controls are also simple filters. but, it may be a case of what you are
hearing
>isn`t what you expected - ? you can also get interesting timbres from the
>digital noise generator by driving it from a vco.
>hope the info helps !
>best,
dave

In a message dated 6/2/2003 1:36:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
r.steverink@w... writes:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I read a lot of good comments of the Wiard stuff!
> Only the look of it. I don't find the look too exciting.
>

> I noticed that you use a lot of filters. What kind
> of music are you making with your gear?
>
>

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics

2003-06-03 by Bakis Sirros

hi roel,
no,you don't nessesarily need an a127 to make ever
evolving pads...but,i think,that the a127(with it's
three band pass filters and three sinewave lfo's )is
the right tool for this job!
bakis.


--- Roel Steverink <r.steverink@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
> From:   davevosh@a...
> Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
> Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Thanks for your comments!
> 
> About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it about
> it looks? They all look
> the same,
> the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes it
> more adventurous in
> look. MOTM design,
> despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit boring.
> But, it's all about
> taste I confess.
> But when you look into it's functions, they are
> certainly adventurous!!! And
> every modules,
> contains in fact more modules!
> 
> About MOTM. They sure have nice range of modules,
> like a sub-octave
> multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I bought
> Robert Rich - Bestiality
> and I must say that this is the most extraordinaire
> album that has come out
> recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36
> modules strong MOTM-system.
> It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!
> 
> When you talk about making music and speaking of
> "process automation
> oriented, self-generating systems", your actually
> talking about ever
> evolving pads?
> Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads, you
> need a triple resonance
> filter! If this is
> true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for
> creating such patches!
> 
> Interesting answer talking about noise going into
> filter! But having all the
> frequencies present, you should have the ability to
> make sounds, which lead
> to bell or rich strings or something like that! I
> wonder what sound would
> appear if you are sending white noise through a
> triple resonance filter???
> 
> Roel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave wrote:
> 
> >roel,
> >what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate ! the
> "look" of the 300 series
> >modules is a personal thing for everyone, some like
> it, others don`t. while
> >the modules will be different from the 300 series,
> grant is also doing a
> 1200
> >series in the frac-rac form factor and with more
> conventional (?) graphics.
> >if
> >you are looking to add some wiard, these might be
> worth a look.
> >best,
> dave
> 
> > What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> > And are you going to buy more MOTM?
> 
> 
> >roel,
> >the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module. it
> has a smooth sound of
> >its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of
> addition to a patch. very
> >different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
> >more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer, as
> funding and priorities
> >allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting
> "3rd party" ( in the
> context
> >of
> >this list) modules to choose from and prioritizing
> those choices is a
> difficult
> >thing sometimes.
> >best,
> dave
> 
> >actually more by accident than design. :^) i
> started with the 2 vcf`s in
> >the bs1 when i first got the starter system. from
> there, 1 and 2 years
> later, i
> >added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my first
> module outside the
> doepfer
> >/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf
> came last year - i was
> >curious about it primarily because of the sharp
> roll-off but its bandpass
> >function
> >is nice, too. probably late this year will come the
> morphing vcf, just
> because
> >it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c.
> processors, though, can be a good
> >thing in some circumstances. for example, my
> primary interest is in what i
> >think of as "process automation oriented,
> self-generating systems", what
> others
> >have called "dream machines" or "electric music
> boxes".
> >being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes" is
> very useful.
> >best,
> dave
> 
> > . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> > a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> > I have tried several times, but I only end up
> > with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> > What am I doing wrong here?
> >
> 
> >roel,
> >nothing that i can see just from the description -
> noise to vcf to output -
> >but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" ( ? )
> - sweeping a filter
> >through the noise spectrum will pick out things
> that sound like "tuned
> noise",
> >a bit
> >of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s effect
> on the noise. there
> are,
> >depending on your needs, a range of noise timbres
> that are different from
> the
> >"normal" noise you get from the basic generator
> although the "blue / red"
> >controls are also simple filters. but, it may be a
> case of what you are
> hearing
> >isn`t what you expected - ? you can also get
> interesting timbres from the
> >digital noise generator by driving it from a vco.
> >hope the info helps !
> >best,
> dave
> 
> In a message dated 6/2/2003 1:36:48 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> r.steverink@w... writes:
> 
> 
> > I read a lot of good comments of the Wiard stuff!
> > Only the look of it. I don't find the look too
> exciting.
> >
> 
> > I noticed that you use a lot of filters. What kind
> > of music are you making with your gear?
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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synthfreak(parallel worlds)
athens-greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner

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Re: synth pics

2003-06-03 by klamb000

The A127 is WAY cool.  The 3 sine wave LFO's are pretty nice, but I 
like using it with 2 EG's and one of it's own LFO's for complex 
filtering... or 1 EG and 2 LFO's... or...

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> hi roel,
> no,you don't nessesarily need an a127 to make ever
> evolving pads...but,i think,that the a127(with it's
> three band pass filters and three sinewave lfo's )is
> the right tool for this job!
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- Roel Steverink <r.steverink@w...> wrote:
> > From:   davevosh@a...
> > Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
> > Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics
> > 
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Thanks for your comments!
> > 
> > About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it about
> > it looks? They all look
> > the same,
> > the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes it
> > more adventurous in
> > look. MOTM design,
> > despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit boring.
> > But, it's all about
> > taste I confess.
> > But when you look into it's functions, they are
> > certainly adventurous!!! And
> > every modules,
> > contains in fact more modules!
> > 
> > About MOTM. They sure have nice range of modules,
> > like a sub-octave
> > multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I bought
> > Robert Rich - Bestiality
> > and I must say that this is the most extraordinaire
> > album that has come out
> > recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36
> > modules strong MOTM-system.
> > It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!
> > 
> > When you talk about making music and speaking of
> > "process automation
> > oriented, self-generating systems", your actually
> > talking about ever
> > evolving pads?
> > Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads, you
> > need a triple resonance
> > filter! If this is
> > true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for
> > creating such patches!
> > 
> > Interesting answer talking about noise going into
> > filter! But having all the
> > frequencies present, you should have the ability to
> > make sounds, which lead
> > to bell or rich strings or something like that! I
> > wonder what sound would
> > appear if you are sending white noise through a
> > triple resonance filter???
> > 
> > Roel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave wrote:
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate ! the
> > "look" of the 300 series
> > >modules is a personal thing for everyone, some like
> > it, others don`t. while
> > >the modules will be different from the 300 series,
> > grant is also doing a
> > 1200
> > >series in the frac-rac form factor and with more
> > conventional (?) graphics.
> > >if
> > >you are looking to add some wiard, these might be
> > worth a look.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > > What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> > > And are you going to buy more MOTM?
> > 
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module. it
> > has a smooth sound of
> > >its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of
> > addition to a patch. very
> > >different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
> > >more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer, as
> > funding and priorities
> > >allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting
> > "3rd party" ( in the
> > context
> > >of
> > >this list) modules to choose from and prioritizing
> > those choices is a
> > difficult
> > >thing sometimes.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > >actually more by accident than design. :^) i
> > started with the 2 vcf`s in
> > >the bs1 when i first got the starter system. from
> > there, 1 and 2 years
> > later, i
> > >added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my first
> > module outside the
> > doepfer
> > >/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf
> > came last year - i was
> > >curious about it primarily because of the sharp
> > roll-off but its bandpass
> > >function
> > >is nice, too. probably late this year will come the
> > morphing vcf, just
> > because
> > >it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c.
> > processors, though, can be a good
> > >thing in some circumstances. for example, my
> > primary interest is in what i
> > >think of as "process automation oriented,
> > self-generating systems", what
> > others
> > >have called "dream machines" or "electric music
> > boxes".
> > >being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes" is
> > very useful.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > > . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> > > a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> > > I have tried several times, but I only end up
> > > with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> > > What am I doing wrong here?
> > >
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >nothing that i can see just from the description -
> > noise to vcf to output -
> > >but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" ( ? )
> > - sweeping a filter
> > >through the noise spectrum will pick out things
> > that sound like "tuned
> > noise",
> > >a bit
> > >of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s effect
> > on the noise. there
> > are,
> > >depending on your needs, a range of noise timbres
> > that are different from
> > the
> > >"normal" noise you get from the basic generator
> > although the "blue / red"
> > >controls are also simple filters. but, it may be a
> > case of what you are
> > hearing
> > >isn`t what you expected - ? you can also get
> > interesting timbres from the
> > >digital noise generator by driving it from a vco.
> > >hope the info helps !
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > In a message dated 6/2/2003 1:36:48 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > r.steverink@w... writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > I read a lot of good comments of the Wiard stuff!
> > > Only the look of it. I don't find the look too
> > exciting.
> > >
> > 
> > > I noticed that you use a lot of filters. What kind
> > > of music are you making with your gear?
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> athens-greece
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
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Re: synth pics

2003-06-04 by selfoscillate

hello,

just to be precise, the a127 lfo waveform is triangle.
i like the a127 very much. still haven't added the
filter mode switches to it, shame on me ;-)

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> hi roel,
> no,you don't nessesarily need an a127 to make ever
> evolving pads...but,i think,that the a127(with it's
> three band pass filters and three sinewave lfo's )is
> the right tool for this job!
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- Roel Steverink <r.steverink@w...> wrote:
> > From:   davevosh@a...
> > Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
> > Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics
> > 
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Thanks for your comments!
> > 
> > About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it about
> > it looks? They all look
> > the same,
> > the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes it
> > more adventurous in
> > look. MOTM design,
> > despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit boring.
> > But, it's all about
> > taste I confess.
> > But when you look into it's functions, they are
> > certainly adventurous!!! And
> > every modules,
> > contains in fact more modules!
> > 
> > About MOTM. They sure have nice range of modules,
> > like a sub-octave
> > multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I bought
> > Robert Rich - Bestiality
> > and I must say that this is the most extraordinaire
> > album that has come out
> > recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36
> > modules strong MOTM-system.
> > It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!
> > 
> > When you talk about making music and speaking of
> > "process automation
> > oriented, self-generating systems", your actually
> > talking about ever
> > evolving pads?
> > Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads, you
> > need a triple resonance
> > filter! If this is
> > true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for
> > creating such patches!
> > 
> > Interesting answer talking about noise going into
> > filter! But having all the
> > frequencies present, you should have the ability to
> > make sounds, which lead
> > to bell or rich strings or something like that! I
> > wonder what sound would
> > appear if you are sending white noise through a
> > triple resonance filter???
> > 
> > Roel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave wrote:
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate ! the
> > "look" of the 300 series
> > >modules is a personal thing for everyone, some like
> > it, others don`t. while
> > >the modules will be different from the 300 series,
> > grant is also doing a
> > 1200
> > >series in the frac-rac form factor and with more
> > conventional (?) graphics.
> > >if
> > >you are looking to add some wiard, these might be
> > worth a look.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > > What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> > > And are you going to buy more MOTM?
> > 
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module. it
> > has a smooth sound of
> > >its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of
> > addition to a patch. very
> > >different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
> > >more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer, as
> > funding and priorities
> > >allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting
> > "3rd party" ( in the
> > context
> > >of
> > >this list) modules to choose from and prioritizing
> > those choices is a
> > difficult
> > >thing sometimes.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > >actually more by accident than design. :^) i
> > started with the 2 vcf`s in
> > >the bs1 when i first got the starter system. from
> > there, 1 and 2 years
> > later, i
> > >added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my first
> > module outside the
> > doepfer
> > >/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf
> > came last year - i was
> > >curious about it primarily because of the sharp
> > roll-off but its bandpass
> > >function
> > >is nice, too. probably late this year will come the
> > morphing vcf, just
> > because
> > >it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c.
> > processors, though, can be a good
> > >thing in some circumstances. for example, my
> > primary interest is in what i
> > >think of as "process automation oriented,
> > self-generating systems", what
> > others
> > >have called "dream machines" or "electric music
> > boxes".
> > >being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes" is
> > very useful.
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > > . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> > > a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> > > I have tried several times, but I only end up
> > > with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> > > What am I doing wrong here?
> > >
> > 
> > >roel,
> > >nothing that i can see just from the description -
> > noise to vcf to output -
> > >but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" ( ? )
> > - sweeping a filter
> > >through the noise spectrum will pick out things
> > that sound like "tuned
> > noise",
> > >a bit
> > >of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s effect
> > on the noise. there
> > are,
> > >depending on your needs, a range of noise timbres
> > that are different from
> > the
> > >"normal" noise you get from the basic generator
> > although the "blue / red"
> > >controls are also simple filters. but, it may be a
> > case of what you are
> > hearing
> > >isn`t what you expected - ? you can also get
> > interesting timbres from the
> > >digital noise generator by driving it from a vco.
> > >hope the info helps !
> > >best,
> > dave
> > 
> > In a message dated 6/2/2003 1:36:48 PM Eastern
> > Daylight Time,
> > r.steverink@w... writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > I read a lot of good comments of the Wiard stuff!
> > > Only the look of it. I don't find the look too
> > exciting.
> > >
> > 
> > > I noticed that you use a lot of filters. What kind
> > > of music are you making with your gear?
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> athens-greece
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> 
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Re: synth pics

2003-06-04 by klamb000

I stand corrected... but it's still a very nice filter.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> hello,
> 
> just to be precise, the a127 lfo waveform is triangle.
> i like the a127 very much. still haven't added the
> filter mode switches to it, shame on me ;-)
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi roel,
> > no,you don't nessesarily need an a127 to make ever
> > evolving pads...but,i think,that the a127(with it's
> > three band pass filters and three sinewave lfo's )is
> > the right tool for this job!
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Roel Steverink <r.steverink@w...> wrote:
> > > From:   davevosh@a...
> > > Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
> > > Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics
> > > 
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your comments!
> > > 
> > > About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it about
> > > it looks? They all look
> > > the same,
> > > the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes it
> > > more adventurous in
> > > look. MOTM design,
> > > despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit boring.
> > > But, it's all about
> > > taste I confess.
> > > But when you look into it's functions, they are
> > > certainly adventurous!!! And
> > > every modules,
> > > contains in fact more modules!
> > > 
> > > About MOTM. They sure have nice range of modules,
> > > like a sub-octave
> > > multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I bought
> > > Robert Rich - Bestiality
> > > and I must say that this is the most extraordinaire
> > > album that has come out
> > > recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36
> > > modules strong MOTM-system.
> > > It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!
> > > 
> > > When you talk about making music and speaking of
> > > "process automation
> > > oriented, self-generating systems", your actually
> > > talking about ever
> > > evolving pads?
> > > Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads, you
> > > need a triple resonance
> > > filter! If this is
> > > true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for
> > > creating such patches!
> > > 
> > > Interesting answer talking about noise going into
> > > filter! But having all the
> > > frequencies present, you should have the ability to
> > > make sounds, which lead
> > > to bell or rich strings or something like that! I
> > > wonder what sound would
> > > appear if you are sending white noise through a
> > > triple resonance filter???
> > > 
> > > Roel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dave wrote:
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate ! the
> > > "look" of the 300 series
> > > >modules is a personal thing for everyone, some like
> > > it, others don`t. while
> > > >the modules will be different from the 300 series,
> > > grant is also doing a
> > > 1200
> > > >series in the frac-rac form factor and with more
> > > conventional (?) graphics.
> > > >if
> > > >you are looking to add some wiard, these might be
> > > worth a look.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > > What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> > > > And are you going to buy more MOTM?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module. it
> > > has a smooth sound of
> > > >its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of
> > > addition to a patch. very
> > > >different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
> > > >more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer, as
> > > funding and priorities
> > > >allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting
> > > "3rd party" ( in the
> > > context
> > > >of
> > > >this list) modules to choose from and prioritizing
> > > those choices is a
> > > difficult
> > > >thing sometimes.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > >actually more by accident than design. :^) i
> > > started with the 2 vcf`s in
> > > >the bs1 when i first got the starter system. from
> > > there, 1 and 2 years
> > > later, i
> > > >added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my first
> > > module outside the
> > > doepfer
> > > >/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf
> > > came last year - i was
> > > >curious about it primarily because of the sharp
> > > roll-off but its bandpass
> > > >function
> > > >is nice, too. probably late this year will come the
> > > morphing vcf, just
> > > because
> > > >it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c.
> > > processors, though, can be a good
> > > >thing in some circumstances. for example, my
> > > primary interest is in what i
> > > >think of as "process automation oriented,
> > > self-generating systems", what
> > > others
> > > >have called "dream machines" or "electric music
> > > boxes".
> > > >being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes" is
> > > very useful.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > > . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> > > > a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> > > > I have tried several times, but I only end up
> > > > with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> > > > What am I doing wrong here?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >nothing that i can see just from the description -
> > > noise to vcf to output -
> > > >but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" ( ? )
> > > - sweeping a filter
> > > >through the noise spectrum will pick out things
> > > that sound like "tuned
> > > noise",
> > > >a bit
> > > >of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s effect
> > > on the noise. there
> > > are,
> > > >depending on your needs, a range of noise timbres
> > > that are different from
> > > the
> > > >"normal" noise you get from the basic generator
> > > although the "blue / red"
> > > >controls are also simple filters. but, it may be a
> > > case of what you are
> > > hearing
> > > >isn`t what you expected - ? you can also get
> > > interesting timbres from the
> > > >digital noise generator by driving it from a vco.
> > > >hope the info helps !
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 6/2/2003 1:36:48 PM Eastern
> > > Daylight Time,
> > > r.steverink@w... writes:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I read a lot of good comments of the Wiard stuff!
> > > > Only the look of it. I don't find the look too
> > > exciting.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > I noticed that you use a lot of filters. What kind
> > > > of music are you making with your gear?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics

2003-06-04 by Bakis Sirros

hi ingo,
oops..sorry.ok,triangle,then.:-)
bakis.


--- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> just to be precise, the a127 lfo waveform is
> triangle.
> i like the a127 very much. still haven't added the
> filter mode switches to it, shame on me ;-)
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi roel,
> > no,you don't nessesarily need an a127 to make ever
> > evolving pads...but,i think,that the a127(with
> it's
> > three band pass filters and three sinewave lfo's
> )is
> > the right tool for this job!
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Roel Steverink <r.steverink@w...> wrote:
> > > From:   davevosh@a...
> > > Date:  Tue Jun 3, 2003  12:46 am
> > > Subject:  Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: synth pics
> > > 
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your comments!
> > > 
> > > About the Wiard. You know what I don't like it
> about
> > > it looks? They all look
> > > the same,
> > > the same row of knobs, diversity in design makes
> it
> > > more adventurous in
> > > look. MOTM design,
> > > despite the cool blackness, looks also a bit
> boring.
> > > But, it's all about
> > > taste I confess.
> > > But when you look into it's functions, they are
> > > certainly adventurous!!! And
> > > every modules,
> > > contains in fact more modules!
> > > 
> > > About MOTM. They sure have nice range of
> modules,
> > > like a sub-octave
> > > multiplexer and a Ultra VCO. A while ago I
> bought
> > > Robert Rich - Bestiality
> > > and I must say that this is the most
> extraordinaire
> > > album that has come out
> > > recently!!! It's almost entirily made with a 36
> > > modules strong MOTM-system.
> > > It moans, bubbles, scirps etc. I love it!!!!
> > > 
> > > When you talk about making music and speaking of
> > > "process automation
> > > oriented, self-generating systems", your
> actually
> > > talking about ever
> > > evolving pads?
> > > Bakis said to me, that for ever evolving pads,
> you
> > > need a triple resonance
> > > filter! If this is
> > > true I must have one!!! I am experimenting for
> > > creating such patches!
> > > 
> > > Interesting answer talking about noise going
> into
> > > filter! But having all the
> > > frequencies present, you should have the ability
> to
> > > make sounds, which lead
> > > to bell or rich strings or something like that!
> I
> > > wonder what sound would
> > > appear if you are sending white noise through a
> > > triple resonance filter???
> > > 
> > > Roel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dave wrote:
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >what can i say ? the circuitry is first rate !
> the
> > > "look" of the 300 series
> > > >modules is a personal thing for everyone, some
> like
> > > it, others don`t. while
> > > >the modules will be different from the 300
> series,
> > > grant is also doing a
> > > 1200
> > > >series in the frac-rac form factor and with
> more
> > > conventional (?) graphics.
> > > >if
> > > >you are looking to add some wiard, these might
> be
> > > worth a look.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > > What do you think of the triple vcf from MOTM.
> > > > And are you going to buy more MOTM?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >the triple vcf from motm is a very nice module.
> it
> > > has a smooth sound of
> > > >its own and makes a great "enhancement" sort of
> > > addition to a patch. very
> > > >different from the doepfer triple vcf in sound.
> > > >more motm ? short answer, yes. longer answer,
> as
> > > funding and priorities
> > > >allow. there are so many wonderful, interesting
> > > "3rd party" ( in the
> > > context
> > > >of
> > > >this list) modules to choose from and
> prioritizing
> > > those choices is a
> > > difficult
> > > >thing sometimes.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > >actually more by accident than design. :^) i
> > > started with the 2 vcf`s in
> > > >the bs1 when i first got the starter system.
> from
> > > there, 1 and 2 years
> > > later, i
> > > >added the 2 triple vcf`s, the motm being my
> first
> > > module outside the
> > > doepfer
> > > >/ an. sol. / an. sys. form factor. the 48db vcf
> > > came last year - i was
> > > >curious about it primarily because of the sharp
> > > roll-off but its bandpass
> > > >function
> > > >is nice, too. probably late this year will come
> the
> > > morphing vcf, just
> > > because
> > > >it seems so unusual. having a lot of v.c.
> > > processors, though, can be a good
> > > >thing in some circumstances. for example, my
> > > primary interest is in what i
> > > >think of as "process automation oriented,
> > > self-generating systems", what
> > > others
> > > >have called "dream machines" or "electric music
> > > boxes".
> > > >being able to layer 2 or 3 or more "processes"
> is
> > > very useful.
> > > >best,
> > > dave
> > > 
> > > > . I read that if you sweep the noise through
> > > > a filter, you can make totally new sounds!!!
> > > > I have tried several times, but I only end up
> > > > with a bit of shaped noise, but no new sounds?
> > > > What am I doing wrong here?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >roel,
> > > >nothing that i can see just from the
> description -
> > > noise to vcf to output -
> > > >but possibly it is a matter of "expectations" (
> ? )
> > > - sweeping a filter
> > > >through the noise spectrum will pick out things
> > > that sound like "tuned
> > > noise",
> > > >a bit
> > > >of "pitch sense" being imparted by the vcf`s
> effect
> > > on the noise. there
> > > are,
> > > >depending on your needs, a range of noise
> timbres
> 
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