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doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-14 by Bakis Sirros

--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:
> From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@doepfer.de>
> To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Poll results for
> Doepfer_a100
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:32:49 +0100
> 
> > The following Doepfer_a100 poll is now closed. 
> Here are the
> > final results:
> >
> >
> > POLL QUESTION: would you like DOEPFER to release a
> > Multi stage envelope (with loop points)
> > module?
> >
> > CHOICES AND RESULTS
> > - yes, 36 votes, 90.00%
> > - maybe, 4 votes, 10.00%
> > - no, 0 votes, 0.00%
> 
> Any ideas concerning the features of such a module
> (especially which
> controls).
> b.t.w. The A-154/A-155 will form a very complex
> multi stage envelope
> generator in the one-shot mode of the A-154 (8
> stages with adjustable level
> and transition time for each step).
> 
> Best wisher
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 


=====
Bakis Siros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.rubber.gr
http://www.ward12.com

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-15 by Paul Schulz

hi folks,

Well, for sure one can use the combination A-155 / A-154  as a nice 
multi-stage envelope, but 390 Euros is quite expensive. Although... 
Encore Electronics´ UEG is $289.00 plus MOTM PSU plus custom costs to 
Europe. Is a lot, too.  I take everything back! Still the UEG takes less 
place.

cheers,
Paul

>
> > Any ideas concerning the features of such a module
> > (especially which
> > controls).
> > b.t.w. The A-154/A-155 will form a very complex
> > multi stage envelope
> > generator in the one-shot mode of the A-154 (8
> > stages with adjustable level
> > and transition time for each step).
> >
> > Best wisher
> > Dieter Doepfer




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Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by selfoscillate

hello,

my personal opinion is, that a multiple eg module will make
much more sense that a multistage envelope. ok, the a154/a155
solution will be big, but it will also be the most versatile
option we can get.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Paul Schulz <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> hi folks,
> 
> Well, for sure one can use the combination A-155 / A-154  as a nice 
> multi-stage envelope, but 390 Euros is quite expensive. Although... 
> Encore Electronics´ UEG is $289.00 plus MOTM PSU plus custom costs 
to 
> Europe. Is a lot, too.  I take everything back! Still the UEG takes 
less 
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> place.
> 
> cheers,
> Paul
> 
> >
> > > Any ideas concerning the features of such a module
> > > (especially which
> > > controls).
> > > b.t.w. The A-154/A-155 will form a very complex
> > > multi stage envelope
> > > generator in the one-shot mode of the A-154 (8
> > > stages with adjustable level
> > > and transition time for each step).
> > >
> > > Best wisher
> > > Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by Bilinger

somehow I think I will also prefer a multiple eg or multiple low cost 
lfo even with no leds than a multistage enveloppe.
in fact the low cost lfo seemed a very good basic module to me.

I am also questionning sometimes buying A132, the low cost vca. has 
anyone use this module? is this okay for audio? i am thinking to save 
a bit of space on some A130 and A131 but I am not sure to really 
understand A132?

thanks

have a good day

Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by selfoscillate

i like the a132, it is a handy module. but please note that they
are linear, which means that they are not very percussive.
for typical synth sounds they are fine and sound well, for
synth percussion you should better use a vca with exponential
response.

also you have no pots on the a132, so if you need to offset the
vca, you need an additional voltage source like a176 or a129/3.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger" <x2wm@h...> wrote:
> somehow I think I will also prefer a multiple eg or multiple low 
cost 
> lfo even with no leds than a multistage enveloppe.
> in fact the low cost lfo seemed a very good basic module to me.
> 
> I am also questionning sometimes buying A132, the low cost vca. has 
> anyone use this module? is this okay for audio? i am thinking to 
save 
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> a bit of space on some A130 and A131 but I am not sure to really 
> understand A132?
> 
> thanks
> 
> have a good day

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by Bakis Sirros

hello,
i have lots of a132 and use them all the time.they're
fine for audio and,actually,i prefer their sound than
the newer version a131's.
bakis.




--- Bilinger <x2wm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> somehow I think I will also prefer a multiple eg or
> multiple low cost 
> lfo even with no leds than a multistage enveloppe.
> in fact the low cost lfo seemed a very good basic
> module to me.
> 
> I am also questionning sometimes buying A132, the
> low cost vca. has 
> anyone use this module? is this okay for audio? i am
> thinking to save 
> a bit of space on some A130 and A131 but I am not
> sure to really 
> understand A132?
> 
> thanks
> 
> have a good day
> 
> 


=====
Bakis Siros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.rubber.gr
http://www.ward12.com

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by Bakis Sirros

hi ingo,
you're right.but i have never noticed the problem with
percussive sounds and the linearity of the a132's.
bakis.




--- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> i like the a132, it is a handy module. but please
> note that they
> are linear, which means that they are not very
> percussive.
> for typical synth sounds they are fine and sound
> well, for
> synth percussion you should better use a vca with
> exponential
> response.
> 
> also you have no pots on the a132, so if you need to
> offset the
> vca, you need an additional voltage source like a176
> or a129/3.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger"
> <x2wm@h...> wrote:
> > somehow I think I will also prefer a multiple eg
> or multiple low 
> cost 
> > lfo even with no leds than a multistage enveloppe.
> > in fact the low cost lfo seemed a very good basic
> module to me.
> > 
> > I am also questionning sometimes buying A132, the
> low cost vca. has 
> > anyone use this module? is this okay for audio? i
> am thinking to 
> save 
> > a bit of space on some A130 and A131 but I am not
> sure to really 
> > understand A132?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > have a good day
> 
> 


=====
Bakis Siros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.rubber.gr
http://www.ward12.com

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Re: doepfer asking for suggestions about a possible MULTI STAGE ENVELOPE MODULE!

2004-01-16 by selfoscillate

hello bakis,

i noticed that issue especially when using envelope followers
with the a132. using an a140 or a141 should work better with
the a132, but maybe it is just me because i tend doing
unusual things when making percussive sounds :-)

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
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> hi ingo,
> you're right.but i have never noticed the problem with
> percussive sounds and the linearity of the a132's.
> bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > i like the a132, it is a handy module. but please
> > note that they
> > are linear, which means that they are not very
> > percussive.
> > for typical synth sounds they are fine and sound
> > well, for
> > synth percussion you should better use a vca with
> > exponential
> > response.
> > 
> > also you have no pots on the a132, so if you need to
> > offset the
> > vca, you need an additional voltage source like a176
> > or a129/3.
> > 
> > best wishes
> > 
> > ingo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger"
> > <x2wm@h...> wrote:
> > > somehow I think I will also prefer a multiple eg
> > or multiple low 
> > cost 
> > > lfo even with no leds than a multistage enveloppe.
> > > in fact the low cost lfo seemed a very good basic
> > module to me.
> > > 
> > > I am also questionning sometimes buying A132, the
> > low cost vca. has 
> > > anyone use this module? is this okay for audio? i
> > am thinking to 
> > save 
> > > a bit of space on some A130 and A131 but I am not
> > sure to really 
> > > understand A132?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > have a good day
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> Bakis Siros
> Parallel Worlds / Polariton
> Athens-Greece
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.rubber.gr
> http://www.ward12.com
> 
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