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Triggersequencer

2002-02-11 by Florian Anwander

Hi,

talking about new modules: Long time ago I built a very simple trigger
sequencer for the Formant system of a friend. It consisted only of four
rows of 16 switches four outputs and a clock in and a reset input. The
clock counted through the switches. If a switch was on, a gate signal
appeared at the corresponding output.
As clock signal I used the Roland DIN-Sync. The clock was divided to 16th
notes. The gate length was derived from the clock.

I thought about to revive this idea again, and wanted to suggest this to
Dieter Doepfer. There are now two versions, I am thinking about
interesting:

Version 1.)
- Very simple, based on simple logic chips, or a Basic Stamp or 
  something like this.
- not programmable, 
- no MIDI, 
- very costs concious. It should not cost more than 100 EUR. 
  (already the mechanical switches are not the cheapest ones...)
- Again with mechanical switches as described
- An additional second row of three position switches could be 
  used to switch between long, short gates and continous notes.
- I'd like to have somthing like a swing function: the off-notes 
  should be delayed a littlebit. But this might be a littlebit to much 
  for a not too expensive module


Version 2.)
- more sophisticated, based on a uP; kind of a small mans Schaltwerk, 
  lets call it "Schaltbox"
- programmable
- optional with MIDI
- could cost up to 250 EUR
- It would have rows of 16 push buttons and LEDs, 
  one row for the steps, one row for the functions
  additionally eight pushbuttons/LEDs for programming/start/stop/shift/...
  (imagine the case like a pocketdial) and eight gate-outs (optional MIDI)
- It could contain 127 patterns of 8 tracks
- thinkable features per track depend on programming amount / or what can 
  be taken over from the Schaltwerk-OS
- MIDI-Clock, load/save .... [add uncountable possibilities of your choice]


The big advantage of the version 2 would be that a lot of the hardware
parts was already developped for the Schaltwerk (pcb with eight Pushbuttons
and eight LEDs, pcb with eight sockets). The same is assumingly valid for
the software.

Version 1 would have a "look and feel" which is much more hardware-like.

Version 2 would be a very new kind of module to the A-100, but it could be
produced as a A-100 module on one side and as standalone box on the other
side.


Opinions? 


Florian
-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

RE: [Doepfer_a100] Triggersequencer

2002-02-11 by thepeak

Hello'

Yes there is an element of interest in a simple gate sequencer, simple being
the operative.  I have not in deed used a sequencer in finality through
progression, ever as a gate based instrument, my post fundamental is to
incorporate 'step by step' (non-pertaining sequence time based "step by
step") addition of elements toward the post existence of a complete and rich
in character sound.

SCHALTWERK - A GREAT SEQUENCER.  Lets move forward...

Regards

TristAm (the peak)

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-----Original Message-----
From: bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:59 PM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Triggersequencer

hi floria,
your ideas are very,very interesting!! i would go for
version 2,but i think both versions would be nice to
have,also...very nice ideas for a new module...do you
think it's time to create a new poll about it??
i always wanted a shaltwerk kind of module integrated
in the a100 system...i hope dieter finds your idea
nice too...
synthfreak


--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> talking about new modules: Long time ago I built a
> very simple trigger
> sequencer for the Formant system of a friend. It
> consisted only of four
> rows of 16 switches four outputs and a clock in and
> a reset input. The
> clock counted through the switches. If a switch was
> on, a gate signal
> appeared at the corresponding output.
> As clock signal I used the Roland DIN-Sync. The
> clock was divided to 16th
> notes. The gate length was derived from the clock.
>
> I thought about to revive this idea again, and
> wanted to suggest this to
> Dieter Doepfer. There are now two versions, I am
> thinking about
> interesting:
>
> Version 1.)
> - Very simple, based on simple logic chips, or a
> Basic Stamp or
>   something like this.
> - not programmable,
> - no MIDI,
> - very costs concious. It should not cost more than
> 100 EUR.
>   (already the mechanical switches are not the
> cheapest ones...)
> - Again with mechanical switches as described
> - An additional second row of three position
> switches could be
>   used to switch between long, short gates and
> continous notes.
> - I'd like to have somthing like a swing function:
> the off-notes
>   should be delayed a littlebit. But this might be a
> littlebit to much
>   for a not too expensive module
>
>
> Version 2.)
> - more sophisticated, based on a uP; kind of a small
> mans Schaltwerk,
>   lets call it "Schaltbox"
> - programmable
> - optional with MIDI
> - could cost up to 250 EUR
> - It would have rows of 16 push buttons and LEDs,
>   one row for the steps, one row for the functions
>   additionally eight pushbuttons/LEDs for
> programming/start/stop/shift/...
>   (imagine the case like a pocketdial) and eight
> gate-outs (optional MIDI)
> - It could contain 127 patterns of 8 tracks
> - thinkable features per track depend on programming
> amount / or what can
>   be taken over from the Schaltwerk-OS
> - MIDI-Clock, load/save .... [add uncountable
> possibilities of your choice]
>
>
> The big advantage of the version 2 would be that a
> lot of the hardware
> parts was already developped for the Schaltwerk (pcb
> with eight Pushbuttons
> and eight LEDs, pcb with eight sockets). The same is
> assumingly valid for
> the software.
>
> Version 1 would have a "look and feel" which is much
> more hardware-like.
>
> Version 2 would be a very new kind of module to the
> A-100, but it could be
> produced as a A-100 module on one side and as
> standalone box on the other
> side.
>
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> Florian
> --
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*
> HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133
> |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr.
> 38, D-81669 München
> email: florian.anwander@consol.de
> |http://www.consol.de
>


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Triggersequencer

2002-02-11 by bakis Sirros

hi floria,
your ideas are very,very interesting!! i would go for
version 2,but i think both versions would be nice to
have,also...very nice ideas for a new module...do you
think it's time to create a new poll about it??
i always wanted a shaltwerk kind of module integrated
in the a100 system...i hope dieter finds your idea
nice too...
synthfreak


--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> talking about new modules: Long time ago I built a
> very simple trigger
> sequencer for the Formant system of a friend. It
> consisted only of four
> rows of 16 switches four outputs and a clock in and
> a reset input. The
> clock counted through the switches. If a switch was
> on, a gate signal
> appeared at the corresponding output.
> As clock signal I used the Roland DIN-Sync. The
> clock was divided to 16th
> notes. The gate length was derived from the clock.
> 
> I thought about to revive this idea again, and
> wanted to suggest this to
> Dieter Doepfer. There are now two versions, I am
> thinking about
> interesting:
> 
> Version 1.)
> - Very simple, based on simple logic chips, or a
> Basic Stamp or 
>   something like this.
> - not programmable, 
> - no MIDI, 
> - very costs concious. It should not cost more than
> 100 EUR. 
>   (already the mechanical switches are not the
> cheapest ones...)
> - Again with mechanical switches as described
> - An additional second row of three position
> switches could be 
>   used to switch between long, short gates and
> continous notes.
> - I'd like to have somthing like a swing function:
> the off-notes 
>   should be delayed a littlebit. But this might be a
> littlebit to much 
>   for a not too expensive module
> 
> 
> Version 2.)
> - more sophisticated, based on a uP; kind of a small
> mans Schaltwerk, 
>   lets call it "Schaltbox"
> - programmable
> - optional with MIDI
> - could cost up to 250 EUR
> - It would have rows of 16 push buttons and LEDs, 
>   one row for the steps, one row for the functions
>   additionally eight pushbuttons/LEDs for
> programming/start/stop/shift/...
>   (imagine the case like a pocketdial) and eight
> gate-outs (optional MIDI)
> - It could contain 127 patterns of 8 tracks
> - thinkable features per track depend on programming
> amount / or what can 
>   be taken over from the Schaltwerk-OS
> - MIDI-Clock, load/save .... [add uncountable
> possibilities of your choice]
> 
> 
> The big advantage of the version 2 would be that a
> lot of the hardware
> parts was already developped for the Schaltwerk (pcb
> with eight Pushbuttons
> and eight LEDs, pcb with eight sockets). The same is
> assumingly valid for
> the software.
> 
> Version 1 would have a "look and feel" which is much
> more hardware-like.
> 
> Version 2 would be a very new kind of module to the
> A-100, but it could be
> produced as a A-100 module on one side and as
> standalone box on the other
> side.
> 
> 
> Opinions? 
> 
> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol* 
> HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133          
> |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr.
> 38, D-81669 M�nchen
> email: florian.anwander@consol.de
> |http://www.consol.de
> 


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[Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator

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