Doepfer

hello david,

i think that a separate 19" solution fits the need of most
users better than a module solution. you won't have to pay
for the frame, you can use it separate from your modular etc.

this will also make the controller (and tkb) much more interesting
for non-a100 users, so more units can be manufactured and
this will probably lead to a further reduced price.

a similar device is the mcv24, which is a 19" unit too.
i can only assume that doepfer would sell only a few units
if you'd need a frame for it.

best wishes

ingo





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> I'm disappointed that the controller section will not fit into a
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I'm disappointed that the controller section will not fit into a
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hello list,
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http://www.doepfer.de/a100tkb.htm

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> I'm disappointed that the controller section will not fit into a
> standard frame.

What would be the advantage if the controller would fit into a A-100
standard frame from your point of view ?

You would need an extra A-100G3 (or half an A-100G6) only for the controller
as the controller would probably fill about 3U. Finally it will be much
cheaper to have a separate 19" unit for the controller (like the MAQ16/3 or
MCV24) compared to the controller mounted into an A-100G3/G6.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
wrote:
> What would be the advantage if the controller would fit into a A-100
> standard frame from your point of view ?

If the keyboard and the controller unit both fit into a standard A-100
frame they could be used in a portable suitcase system or in people's
custom built wooden racks.  They would still be rackmountable by
putting them into a standard a-100 frame.  As it is, the current
design loses this flexibility and requires three separate units:  the
A100 modular in one case, the keyboard sitting on its own, and the
controller unit racked in a case apart from the keyboard.  I don't see
how the relationship between the touch keys and the knobs on the
controller can really be visualized in this type of setup.  It also
leaves no possibility for building a small Synthi or Music Easel type
of portable performance synth with an integrated keyboard/sequencer
device.  How deep will the 19" rack controller be?  If it is a pretty
shallow device I suppose I can still hack it into another case
somehow.  But if it is more of a standard deep rackmount device it
starts to look less like an elegant controller solution and more like
a cumbersome studio device.

hmm from my point of view the controller would loose
flexibility if you have to buy a frame for it.

1. nobody would be able to use it as table-top unit.
2. users who want to use it with their analogue synth
(like minimoog or ms20) would probably not purchase it,
because they would need a frame.
3. it would be costy to buy that extra frame.

besides this, the relation of touch plates and their
corresponding knobs will be absolutely no problem if
both units are rack-mountable without the necessity
of a frame, because nobody keeps you from mounting the
controller on top of the tkb in the same rack.

i see your point, but i guess that the majority of users 
would aprechiate that they would not be forced to buy a frame
for it. but i agree that the unit should be as shallow as
possible to make tabletop-usage easier.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "pela_gius" <pela_gius@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Dieter Doepfer" 
<hardware@d...>
> wrote:
> > What would be the advantage if the controller would fit into a A-
100
> > standard frame from your point of view ?
> 
> If the keyboard and the controller unit both fit into a standard A-
100
> frame they could be used in a portable suitcase system or in 
people's
> custom built wooden racks.  They would still be rackmountable by
> putting them into a standard a-100 frame.  As it is, the current
> design loses this flexibility and requires three separate units:  
the
> A100 modular in one case, the keyboard sitting on its own, and the
> controller unit racked in a case apart from the keyboard.  I don't 
see
> how the relationship between the touch keys and the knobs on the
> controller can really be visualized in this type of setup.  It also
> leaves no possibility for building a small Synthi or Music Easel 
type
> of portable performance synth with an integrated keyboard/sequencer
> device.  How deep will the 19" rack controller be?  If it is a 
pretty
> shallow device I suppose I can still hack it into another case
> somehow.  But if it is more of a standard deep rackmount device it
> starts to look less like an elegant controller solution and more 
like
> a cumbersome studio device.