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hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-22 by zombie_tron

i wanted to say hi and express my relief in finding this group.

i thought i would jump in with a question. ive accumulated a few formant modules and ordered a power supply for them (from curetronics). i noticed that some of the modules have a 31 pin connnector on the back of the card, whereas some of the (older?) modules only have a few pins attached to the back.

im thinking to do away with these connectors, and just solder to the proper pins to power the module / connect it others.  does anyone else have experience with or opinions on this?

thanks

Re: [ElektorFormant] hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-22 by Gerard Bik

Hi zombie_tron

The connectors seem unnecessary extra work at first glance. It all depends on what you plan to do with the modules.
Building a cabinet with connectors to accomodate different modules is an investment that pays itself back many times as soon as you want to modify or repair a module.  To be able to just pull out a module and slide it back in is a wonderful experience :-D

As I am an avid experimenter, I built an extension cable, basically two connectors with a long flatcable in between. This allowed me to work on a module outside of the cabinet while it was operating.

I do have other equipment without connectors, just quickly soldered together. But when these need repair (and eventually they all do) it is a lot of hassle.

 Gerard


>i wanted to say hi and express my relief in finding this group.
>
>i thought i would jump in with a question. ive accumulated a few formant modules and ordered a power supply for them (from curetronics). i noticed that some of the modules have a 31 pin connnector on the back of the card, whereas some of the (older?) modules only have a few pins attached to the back.
>
>im thinking to do away with these connectors, and just solder to the proper pins to power the module / connect it others.  does anyone else have experience with or opinions on this?
>
>thanks
>
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Re: hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-22 by zombie_tron

gerard - thanks for the quick answer. 

i like the idea of having one or 2 connectors attached to the power bus to be able to try out or work on modules. 

ill probably head over to www.segor.de in berlin to see if i can find the right connectors/cables/adapters.

brendan

--- In ElektorFormant@yahoogroups.com, Gerard Bik <gbik@...> wrote:
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> Hi zombie_tron
> 
> The connectors seem unnecessary extra work at first glance. It all depends on what you plan to do with the modules.
> Building a cabinet with connectors to accomodate different modules is an investment that pays itself back many times as soon as you want to modify or repair a module.  To be able to just pull out a module and slide it back in is a wonderful experience :-D
> 
> As I am an avid experimenter, I built an extension cable, basically two connectors with a long flatcable in between. This allowed me to work on a module outside of the cabinet while it was operating.
> 
> I do have other equipment without connectors, just quickly soldered together. But when these need repair (and eventually they all do) it is a lot of hassle.
> 
>  Gerard
> 
> 
> >i wanted to say hi and express my relief in finding this group.
> >
> >i thought i would jump in with a question. ive accumulated a few formant modules and ordered a power supply for them (from curetronics). i noticed that some of the modules have a 31 pin connnector on the back of the card, whereas some of the (older?) modules only have a few pins attached to the back.
> >
> >im thinking to do away with these connectors, and just solder to the proper pins to power the module / connect it others.  does anyone else have experience with or opinions on this?
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> ______________________ _
> Gerard Bik grafische vormgeving
> Van Aerssenstraat 263
> 2582 JM  Den Haag
> 070 3554081
>

Re: [ElektorFormant] Re: hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-23 by Terry Garrett

Hi zombie_tron (did you know Wendy Carlos did the sountrack to Tron?). On the subject of connectors yes i agree they are an expensive but desirable extra. I just soldered all mine, but as I left the Formant for well over 20 years I regret this. Most modules need a lot ot of work, as well as experimenting (don't you find nothing is ever finished when you experiment!!)
When I worked in electronic telephone exchanges we used a similar arrangement with what were called 'outriggers', rather like Gerard's idea. The outrigger with plug at one end fixed to a pcb carried all connections to another socket which you would plug your circuit into. So it just extended the PCB out so you could work on it in 'situ'. Hope you can get the DIN sockets as they seem not to be generally unavailable today.
; regards
; ; ; Terry
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From: zombie_tron <;zombie_tron@...>
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:34:38 AM
Subject: [ElektorFormant] Re: hello and DIN 41617 to all of you


gerard - thanks for the quick answer.

i like the idea of having one or 2 connectors attached to the power bus to be able to try out or work on modules.

ill probably head over to www.segor.de in berlin to see if i can find the right connectors/cables/ adapters.

brendan

--- In ElektorFormant@ yahoogroups. com, Gerard Bik wrote:
>
> Hi zombie_tron
>
> The connectors seem unnecessary extra work at first glance. It all depends on what you plan to do with the modules.
> Building a cabinet with connectors to accomodate different modules is an investment that pays itself back many times as soon as you want to modify or repair a module. To be able to just pull out a module and slide it back in is a wonderful experience :-D
>
> As I am an avid experimenter, I built an extension cable, basically two connectors with a long flatcable in between. This allowed me to work on a module outside of the cabinet while it was operating.
>
> I do have other equipment without connectors, just quickly soldered together. But when these need repair (and eventually they all do) it is a lot of hassle.
>
> Gerard
>
>
> >i wanted to say hi and express my relief in finding this group.
> >
> >i thought i would jump in with a question. ive accumulated a few formant modules and ordered a power supply for them (from curetronics) . i noticed that some of the modules have a 31 pin connnector on the back of the card, whereas some of the (older?) modules only have a few pins attached to the back.
> >
> >im thinking to do away with these connectors, and just solder to the proper pins to power the module / connect it others. does anyone else have experience with or opinions on this?
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >----------- --------- --------- -------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ____________ _________ _ _
> Gerard Bik grafische vormgeving
> Van Aerssenstraat 263
> 2582 JM Den Haag
> 070 3554081
>


Re: hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-23 by zombie_tron

--- In ElektorFormant@yahoogroups.com, Terry Garrett <terry.garrett76@...> wrote:
> Hope you can get the DIN sockets as they seem not to be generally unavailable today.
> 
>                     

terry, thanks - its one of the nice things about living in germany; they have some great electronics stores and they all still love their "DIN" standard sizes.  i already found some stores who said they stock them. and if its good enough for telecom technicians.. 

_brendan

Re: hello and DIN 41617 to all of you

2009-06-24 by haitar92

Yea. But even if you don't have a store nearby, there's always someone like www.reichelt.de, who also deliver to other contries - in Europe :) - and also still offer the DIN connector series.

Tarek

--- In ElektorFormant@yahoogroups.com, "zombie_tron" <zombie_tron@...> wrote:
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> --- In ElektorFormant@yahoogroups.com, Terry Garrett <terry.garrett76@> wrote:
> > Hope you can get the DIN sockets as they seem not to be generally unavailable today.
> > 
> >                     
> 
> terry, thanks - its one of the nice things about living in germany; they have some great electronics stores and they all still love their "DIN" standard sizes.  i already found some stores who said they stock them. and if its good enough for telecom technicians.. 
> 
> _brendan
>

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