Hey thanks Ralph, you've been a huge help. That's exactly what I'm going to do today. Certainly sounds like it will fix my problems. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Stokes" <keysralph@...> To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess > > In the past, for both performance, and Recording, I would first:- > > 1) > Hunt through all my sounds, and choose a maximum of 60 (or 120 if I had > a RAM card) sounds I would likely use in all my songs (apart from those > sounds already permanently there in ROM/Read Only Memory).These sounds > should include any sounds you, or another band member may want to play live. > > 2) > Choose the order to place those sounds in the 60 sounds (and 60 RAM card > if you have one). Store them to the 60 memories (+60 card if applicable). > > 3) > You now have your first template of 60 sounds in ram. I would save that > as say Perf 01 or something like that. (If you have RAM Card you may > wish to copy them to SD-1 RAM and save those sounds as maybe Perf C01. > Then reload the Perf 01 sounds. These will be the sounds you will use in > all future compositions. If you find a new sound you need, swap it with > a sound that has not yet been used in any song, and that you don't think > you will use, and rename and save that 60 sounds on that RAM/RAM card to > maybe Perf 02/Perf C02, or Perf 01a/Perf C01a. > > 4) > Use 30 sequences at a time, and, since all your sequences will use the > same sounds, you can load a set of 30 sequences without messing up the > sounds for the 30 sequences already loaded. When you save the 30 > sequences, if you save it without the sounds, then save the 60 sounds > separate, it won't override any small sound changes since you created > that song. > > 5) > If you already have existing Song/Sequences, load them to the SD-1 RAM.. > > 6) Use a notepad to jot down the sound names and positions, of all > sounds in each sequence and in the song. > > 7) If you see a sound you need in a sequence, that is not in your new > set of sounds, you have created, save that one sound to disc, reload > your sounds 01 from disc, reload that sound and save it to replace a > sound you have not yet used in a song, that you don't need as much. Save > those sounds to maybe Perf 01a. If you want that sound on RAM card, > instead of RAM, save it to RAM card in place of a sound you don't need. > Reload the Sequences/Song again. > > 8) Whilst your Song/Sequences have been loaded to RAM, Now Load your > newly created Perf 01 sounds to RAM. > > 9) Using your notepad, go through all your sequences, and songs, > ensuring all tracks in each sequence/song has the correct sounds in > them. Select the Sound, press replace program, and find the correct > sound in it's new location, and select it. exit and save. > > 10) Save the Sequences/Song as 30/60 sequences, complete with the new > sound collection. > > 11) You may want to move sequences, if needed, to make sure they all > fit on one set of 30 Sequences. If you do, you will need to edit steps > in song and relocate the position of where each moved sequence is. > > As you add a new sound to an unused sound location in your 60 sounds, > you can save it, load all your older sequences/song, reload your new 60 > sounds, save the sequences/song with the new 60 sounds. That way, when > you load an earlier sequence, on one 30 sequences/songs, you don't force > the older sound settings on the other 30 sequences/sounds. > Alternatively, you may decide not to save the sounds with the > songs/sequences, but separate, so you don't need to update sounds on > erlier songs/sequences. > > My 30 sequences had between 2 and 6 songs on each giving me up to ten > full songs available at one time, all using the same set of 60 sounds or > the built in ROM. > > Just some ideas... > > Ralph :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael C Lesko wrote: > > >Jay that's a great point but I can't tell you how many times I've had > >computers > >(even fast ones) stagger or fail when doing operations. > > > >I understand your point clearly and I wish there was a 100% reliable way > >of setting things up but I'm not aware of one. I've just found that my SD-1 > >(as long as I've had it) never studders or has never failed. > > > >My band is going to start playing out soon. No small gigs either, big stuff > >and > >I know I have to be able to rely on my gear. I thought as a back up to buy > >another SD-1. I mean it probably will be a pain to carry around but I got > >the > >last one for $200 and that price is well worth the peice of mind. > > > >I'm new to this but I also just assumed that no matter how you set up a > >sequence > >there is always a chance of things going wrong. Am I off the mark with > >that? > >How about everyone else? What is the most popular way of playing sequences > >during a gig? Any info is greatly appreciated, as is yours Jay. Thanks. > > > >Michael > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jay Barnes" <apdced34@...> > >To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:03 PM > >Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess > > > > > > > > > >>Michael, > >>What you're doing seems dangerous for a couple > >>reasons. What if your sequencer on the SD1 goes down > >>like mine did recently? You've lost all your work. > >>What if it happens at your gig? Yeow! > >> > >>What I do is create each sequence and play the > >>sequence directly into my digital recorder. Then I > >>take that and put into my computer. You can bypass > >>one step and record directly to the computer. When I > >>have the entire group of sequences saved like I might > >>do with a song, I record them onto a CD or two or > >>three. > >> > >>The sequences are mostly drum but I also add piano, > >>organ etc at times depending on the song. > >>When my buddy and I play, we have a list of our songs > >>which correspondes to the number of the track on the > >>CD. In other words if we're doing a song like > >>Satisfaction, I look at the list and see that it's > >>track number 4 (or whatever) and I cue the CD player > >>to 4, hit play and we're off and running. The CD > >>player is connected to our sound system. > >> > >>If I want to change something, like the volume of the > >>organ or whatever I still have everything stored on my > >>computer with everything backed up on a CD. (Each > >>track stored separately) I'll remix the track and > >>change the volumes or whatever and re-burn it to a CD. > >> > >> > >>Also, I don't save as MP3 due to the loss of sound > >>quality. This means using two or three discs instead > >>of one but they sound much better. > >> > >>Jay > >> > >> > >>--- Michael C Lesko <MichaelL33@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi all, > >>> > >>>Ok, so we I got my SD-1, and before reading the > >>>manual, I went ahead and > >>>started programming all these 80's songs for > >>>my newly formed band of 30-somethings. Anyway I set > >>>up each sequence > >>>differently, sounds are not on the same tracks, > >>>duplicated sequences when I could have just replayed > >>>them several times in > >>>the song edit mode - ah! Funny thing is that > >>>the songs sound fantastic - perfect, really. > >>> > >>>Now I carefully structure my sequences with nice > >>>neat tracks that I can > >>>collapse down for a nice neat menu to run while I'm > >>>on stage when the band is ready (which the time is > >>>quickly drawing near) So > >>>basically now I have a sets worth of sequences > >>>that I've got to clean up or do something with so I > >>>don't have to stop and > >>>load after each song. Save recording everything out > >>>to mp3 or the like, is there anything I can do here? > >>> Perhaps there is a > >>>computer program out there where I can load my > >>>sequencer data into a visual interface and clean > >>>things up easier? Perhaps > >>>some other way? Any information would be > >>>greatly appreciated. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>> > >>>Michael > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess
2005-01-19 by Michael C Lesko
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