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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess

2005-01-20 by Michael C Lesko

Thanks again for the info Jay.  I'm still considering that option.
You're right a good CD player always works and the SD-1 is
a computer and computers can go down for lot's of reasons.

I guess all things into consideration, there will always be a chance
things will break down at a gig.  I understand that but it's always
best to set up the most reliable system you can and that's what
I'm tring to do.  

Knowing things will never go wrong at a gig?  Now where's the
excitement in that? 

Michael
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Barnes" <apdced34@...>
To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess


> 
> Michael,
> You're right.  Every computer fails at some point. 
> But, that's what would worry me about the SD1.  It's a
> computer. Mine never failed either.  Until it failed.
> ( :  Fortunately it's only the sequencer function but
> I'll get that back up soon.
> 
> Every now and then I think I've got a mix done and the
> computer will lock up or whatever but the end result
> is I wind up with a CD and the CD player never fails
> us. I wish we had a drummer but they're worse than
> computers!  HAHAHA   DRUMMER JOKE! JUST A JOKE!
> 
> At $200 the SD1 is a steal. Wouldn't hurt to have 2
> anyway.  You're unlikely to lose money if you re-sell.
> Congrats at getting the big gigs!
> Jay
> 
>  
> 
> --- Michael C Lesko <MichaelL33@...> wrote:
> 
> > Jay that's a great point but I can't tell you how
> > many times I've had
> > computers
> > (even fast ones) stagger or fail when doing
> > operations.
> > 
> > I understand your point clearly and I wish there was
> > a 100% reliable way
> > of setting things up but I'm not aware of one.  I've
> > just found that my SD-1
> > (as long as I've had it) never studders or has never
> > failed.
> > 
> > My band is going to start playing out soon.  No
> > small gigs either, big stuff
> > and
> > I know I have to be able to rely on my gear.  I
> > thought as a back up to buy
> > another SD-1.  I mean it probably will be a pain to
> > carry around but I got
> > the
> > last one for $200 and that price is well worth the
> > peice of mind.
> > 
> > I'm new to this but I also just assumed that no
> > matter how you set up a
> > sequence
> > there is always a chance of things going wrong.  Am
> > I off the mark with
> > that?
> > How about everyone else?  What is the most popular
> > way of playing sequences
> > during a gig?  Any info is greatly appreciated, as
> > is yours Jay.  Thanks.
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay Barnes" <apdced34@...>
> > To: <Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] What a sequencing mess
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > > What you're doing seems dangerous for a couple
> > > reasons.  What if your sequencer on the SD1 goes
> > down
> > > like mine did recently?  You've lost all your
> > work.
> > > What if it happens at your gig?  Yeow!
> > >
> > > What I do is create each sequence and play the
> > > sequence directly into my digital recorder.  Then
> > I
> > > take that and put into my computer.  You can
> > bypass
> > > one step and record directly to the computer. 
> > When I
> > > have the entire group of sequences saved like I
> > might
> > > do with a song, I record them onto a CD or two or
> > > three.
> > >
> > > The sequences are mostly drum but I also add
> > piano,
> > > organ  etc at times depending on the song.
> > > When my buddy and I play, we have a list of our
> > songs
> > > which correspondes to the number of the track on
> > the
> > > CD.  In other words if we're doing a song like
> > > Satisfaction, I look at the list and see that it's
> > > track number 4 (or whatever) and I cue the CD
> > player
> > > to 4, hit play and we're off and running.  The CD
> > > player is connected to our sound system.
> > >
> > > If I want to change something, like the  volume of
> > the
> > > organ or whatever I still have everything stored
> > on my
> > > computer with everything backed up on a CD.  (Each
> > > track stored separately)  I'll remix the track and
> > > change the volumes or whatever and re-burn it to a
> > CD.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, I don't save as MP3 due to the loss of sound
> > > quality.  This means using two or three discs
> > instead
> > > of one but they sound much better.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Michael C Lesko <MichaelL33@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Ok, so we I got my SD-1, and before reading the
> > > > manual, I went ahead and
> > > > started programming all these 80's songs for
> > > > my newly formed band of 30-somethings.  Anyway I
> > set
> > > > up each sequence
> > > > differently, sounds are not on the same tracks,
> > > > duplicated sequences when I could have just
> > replayed
> > > > them several times in
> > > > the song edit mode - ah!  Funny thing is that
> > > > the songs sound fantastic - perfect, really.
> > > >
> > > > Now I carefully structure my sequences with nice
> > > > neat tracks that I can
> > > > collapse down for a nice neat menu to run while
> > I'm
> > > > on stage when the band is ready (which the time
> > is
> > > > quickly drawing near)  So
> > > > basically now I have a sets worth of sequences
> > > > that I've got to clean up or do something with
> > so I
> > > > don't have to stop and
> > > > load after each song.  Save recording everything
> > out
> > > > to mp3 or the like, is there anything I can do
> > here?
> > > >  Perhaps there is a
> > > > computer program out there where I can load my
> > > > sequencer data into a visual interface and clean
> > > > things up easier?  Perhaps
> > > > some other way?  Any information would be
> > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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