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Re: ne1 know if you can use external midi controller on VFX?

2006-12-10 by k5kip_1999

Hey,
Are you talking about bomes midi translator or midi ox?
I have the vanilla VFX and I have the manual. Sorry no vfx sd manual
tho....
So, I take the controller I want to use and map it to a function using
the sysex info. 
The manual lists several specs....

Several questions - 
1. Do I need to have both midi in and out going to and from the vfx
to do this?

2. What info do i need to send for every translation or controller
message conversion? Hmmm... how to be clear.  After the translator
receives the controller and converts to sysex...
?  system exclusive status byte ?
? Non real time message code ?
? Bass midi channel number ?
? All channel broadcast code ?
? General information message code ?
? Device inquiry message code?
? end of system exclusive

................. wow 
Ok....
Let me start again.
I am not sure how it will happen... I am overwhelmed by midi messages.
Question how will translator send a different value... or is it
translating every sing value change on the controller.

OH my...



--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "Hans Artmann"
<hans-artmann@...> wrote:
>
> ok, there's a program that is able to translate MIDI messages, i.e.
> taking controller messages from a B-Control or anything and deliver
> sysex messages. 
> Let me know if anyone's interested in this program and I'll send the
> link where to get it.
>  
> Now here's yet another problem: the sysex definition has changed from
> VFX to VFX SD and the changed version has not been published with the
> later manuals as it had been in the early vanilla VFX manual. Times ago
> it could be ordered from Ensoniq for free but there's no Ensoniq any
> more.
> Does anybody happen to have the full MIDI spec for the SD?
>  
> Hans
>  
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Hans Artmann
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2006 09:27
> An: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: AW: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ne1 know if you can use external midi
> controller on VFX?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting idea. I don't  think it could be done just using
> controllers. The VFX has a pretty early MIDI implementation and does not
> support so called NRPNs (non registered parameter numbers) to control
> sound parameters like lfo rate etc. but rather uses sysex messages for
> parameter control.
> As far as I've understood the B-CONTROL you can assign program changes,
> controllers, and e.g. sequencer start/stop messages to the knobs and
> faders but you cannot directly define sysex messages.
>  
> But there's hope. If you wouldn't bother to additionally connect a
> notebook it could be done: all you need is a piece of software to
> translate controller messages coming from the B_CONTROL via USB to sysex
> messages going through the MIDI interface to the VFX.
>  
> However, this piece of SW has still to be written...
>  
> Good luck
> Hans
>  
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von k5kip_1999
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2006 03:16
> An: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ne1 know if you can use external midi
> controller on VFX?
> 
> 
> 
> Hey all, 
> 
> Specifically - I want to program the synth controls like envelops and
> other "synth" parameters, filter cutoff, lfo rate lots of them
> etc.... from an external midi controller like UC-33e or BCR2000? All
> those knobs and they are so cheap ... would make the vfx feel like an
> old analog with lots of knobs!!!!
> 
> It would breath much new life into programming this synth.
> Are there a limit to how many controller assignments can go in and
> what they will effect?
> thanks
>

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