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RE: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX-SD with Computer problem

2001-12-13 by Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.

I can't offer an explanation.  However, I can say that mine works fine,
talking to either my PC or to my Mac.

Geren W. Mortensen, Jr.
Columbia, Maryland, USA

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: zappedguy [mailto:zappedone@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:47 AM
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: VFX-SD with Computer problem
>
>
> Nathan, you are right. The touch is completely different when
> attempting to use the VFX to drive the computer synth. I've had my
> VFX for years and have come to really appreciate it's touch when
> playing it. The touch is almost un-useable when used with the
> computer. I hope someone has an explanation. Thanks for responding!
>
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y..., Nathan I Smutz <n.smutz@j...> wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > Actually, I think you can set different velocity curves for
> different
> > envelopes within a patch.  However, I think he's saying that
> somthing is
> > different when he connects his keyboard to his computer.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > On 9 Dec 2001 23:16:40 -0000 Ensoniq-VFX-SD@y... writes:
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> > > There are 2 messages in this issue.
> > >
> > > Topics in this digest:
> > >
> > >       1. VFX-SD with Computer problem
> > >            From: "zappedguy" <zappedone@a...>
> > >       2. Re: VFX-SD with Computer problem
> > >            From: Suzanne Archibald <suzanne@c...>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
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> > > Message: 1
> > >    Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 15:57:30 -0000
> > >    From: "zappedguy" <zappedone@a...>
> > > Subject: VFX-SD with Computer problem
> > >
> > > Have any of you ever connected your VFX to a PC and tried to use
> it
> > >
> > > with Cakewalk? When I tried it, I found that the touch
> sensitivity
> > > was way off. I had to pound the keys to get much of anything from
> > > it.
> > > I'm sure there must be a simple solution. Help Please...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > Message: 2
> > >    Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 11:10:19 -0500
> > >    From: Suzanne Archibald <suzanne@c...>
> > > Subject: Re: VFX-SD with Computer problem
> > >
> > > On Sunday 09 December 2001 10:57 am, you wrote:
> > > > Have any of you ever connected your VFX to a PC and tried to
> use
> > > it
> > > > with Cakewalk? When I tried it, I found that the touch
> > > sensitivity
> > > > was way off. I had to pound the keys to get much of anything
> from
> > > it.
> > > > I'm sure there must be a simple solution. Help Please...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, there is a simple solution :) Practice!
> > >
> > > Honestly, the Ensoniq's have fairly 'hard' velocity curves, even
> the
> > > 'soft 1'
> > > curve is relatively heavy compared to other synths (btw, make
> sure
> > > you have
> > > it set to Soft 1).
> > >
> > > Really though, the more you play it, the more you'll get used to
> it,
> > >
> > > eventually you'll find that you expect velocity to be so heavy
> and
> > > other
> > > synths will seem too 'spongy'.
> > >
> > > The Ensoniq's do lack some major control over velocity though, a
> > > level of
> > > control that you cannot achieve with just getting used to it. For
> > > example
> > > there is no 'flat' curve, or any of the weird curves that are on
> > > other
> > > synths, the Ensoniq is either 'soft' or 'hard' or somewhere
> between.
> > >
> > > Personally I gain back a lot of control over the velocity by
> using a
> > > Logic
> > > environment page that gives me a 9 level curve selector (with
> > > exponential and
> > > custom (drawn with a input vs output graph) curves, including a
> > > 'flat'
> > > curve). Its not that easy in cakewalk, but you MAY be able to get
> > > some
> > > velocity modification out of the 'MIDI FX' feature.
> > >
> > > Its a shame that ensoniq didn't put a little more thought into
> the
> > > velocity
> > > control (take a look at kurzweil's user defined velocity maps -
> up
> > > to 100 can
> > > be stored - for an idea of perfection), but its something we have
> to
> > > live
> > > with.
> > >
> > > Btw, If you've never taken proper lessons, most teachers will
> tell
> > > you that
> > > you don't play near the end of the keys, but play each key with
> your
> > > finger
> > > pressing around the area where the black keys end . Doing this
> gives
> > > you a
> > > lot more leverage on velocity, since you're moving the key closer
> to
> > > the
> > > pivot point (it also makes the difference between a sharp and
> > > natural more
> > > fluid, making sharps less of a pain to play). So, if you play
> with
> > > your
> > > fingers coming into contact nearer the key ends, you may want to
> try
> > > and
> > > re-adjust to playing 'properly'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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