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Re: Ensoniq Sequencers, Pt.2

2011-03-24 by somethingkillingyou

I agree with lesson #1.

but the more I stay away from software sequencers, the more happy I feel :)

and you're definitely right, there has never been a better time to make electronic music than right now. 

F.


--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "LarryS" <vision1@...> wrote:
>
> Why fatten it at all?
> Just save it for the softy parts.
> 
> I mean, the ONE lesson, perhaps the most valuable lesson that I learned
> long, long, ago applied to synths and computers in exactly the same way.
> That is:  There's No Such Thing As One Unit That Does It All.
> 
> The biggest problem people have with their computers is trying to do
> EVERYTHING on them.  Computers are CHEAP.  Buy an old one to write your
> great novel on.  $10.  Never crash.  It has nothing to do.  The Mac I do
> music on could be purchased today for some similar price.  Maybe $50.  It
> never crashes.  It does NOTHING except music.
> 
> And synths are the same way.  What's that K5 worth?  $100?  tops?  I have a
> Kawai K1r and I use it when I need *that sound* -- otherwise it sits.  For
> $50, I could buy another if I wanted one.  So letting it sit costs me
> nothing.  Fatten it up?  I'd never do that.  I have other synths for "fat".
> Saves me time and hassle trying to get 'fat' from a synth that could never
> do it in the first place.  Some synths just ain't got 'fat'... other synths
> ain't got 'light'.   Easy.
> 
> For many years, they tried to sell us synths that would sound like something
> else.  Synths that would sound like everything else.  After a while, I
> finally caught on that not only were they *lying* and would say anything to
> make a sale -- marketing hype -- but I was far ahead to not stay up late
> nights trying to teach a pig to sing.  I just let the synth do its own
> thing.
> 
> Y'know, my first synth was a brand new Arp Odyssey in 1976.  $1400 for a
> monophonic non-progammable synth.  $1400 of THOSE dollars, when gas was 76
> cents/gallon and we were shocked it jumped that high.  As far as I'm
> concerned, there has never been a better time to make electronic music than
> right now.  The very best synths EVER are also the cheapest synths to be
> had.  For that same $1400 today, I could have a rack-full of stuff with
> *100* voices, easy.  
> 
> And don't get me started on my $8,500 Prophet-10 I bought new....  Yup.  One
> synth.  10 voices.  But it had two manuals!  ;-)
> 
> L.
> 
>    
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> > somethingkillingyou
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:59 PM
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Ensoniq Sequencers, Pt.2
> > 
> > well, the K5 sound can be fatten up in multi mode, but that 
> > eats a lot of polyphony... anyway the "pureness" of the 
> > additive sound (only harmonic partials, no noise generator) 
> > is prone to sound very digital and kind of sterile anyway... 
> > of course I love it for what it is! :)
> > I mean it's horses for courses, and I like my setup because 
> > of its versatility... subtractive, additive, wavetable... 
> > just add imagination and the will to create new strange sounds!
> > 
> > I hate the fact that the day that I'll be able to program 
> > additive synthesis, I'll be a dinosaur for real... brilliant 
> > concept, but a pain to program... the easiest way is to 
> > analyze some samples and attempt resynthesis... additive can 
> > turn yourself into a sort of mega-synth-nerd and eat up a lot 
> > of playing time... but an inspiring new sound can lead to a 
> > brilliant song!
> > 
> > F.
>

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