Patches and discussion for Ensoniq VFX family

well said - mike -
not trying to start a battle but,
if people "End up" buying a manual , fine - all the power to the seller
there's something to be said about hardcopies with bindings

but if a file called      "not_the_vfx_pdfmanual.vfx"
ended up somewhere and we all saw a link to it
???
i have the hard copy not the pdf - so im not claiming to post it

i would think a promotional , business enhancher for these vfx parts 
places
would be to have a free downloads section
would drive home the idea that you support and carry "all this other 
stuff" too
and most users would be grateful for the freebie and then consider 
buying all these eproms, roms, batteries etc from you
since you'd "capture" their name/addr/email  before allowing the 
download to happen

im not a marketing major, but  you are scaring business away

On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 01:47  AM, rf_erf wrote:

> Hey it's the manual mafia...  how's biz these days?  Slow?
>
> I'd be very interested in hearing more about the supposed legalities
> of copying a user manual for an obsolete keyboard.  I doubt you have
> any grounds for this bluff and are probably just trying to "protect
> your ricebowl".
>
> As far as I am aware, there is no Ensoniq and there is no support for
> previous Ensoniq products from Emu.  This synth is nearly 15? years
> old.  Emu support is not good at the best of times, and I suspect
> they don't give a damn about old Ensoniq gear after acquiring their
> tech.
>
> I am after a copy of the VFX manual (preferably PDF) to decide
> whether or not I'd like to acquire one of these keyboards, but I'm
> certainly not going to buy a manual to make such as assessment.  Talk
> about money for nothing - you guys are selling PDF files and
> photocopies LOL.  (Although, yes I appreciate the payment is for your
> collecting skills rather than the media itself)
>
> While I appreciate that your company provides a potentially useful
> service, and probably has an impressive library of collated
> documentation - You will always be the LAST RESORT for someone
> seeking a manual.  Unfortunately, your comments have permanently
> disuaded me from ever buying a manual from these two companies (and I
> am also in the market for several service manuals at the moment,
> which I realise are a little rarer and more specialised than owner
> manuals, and which I am prepared to pay for).  There are others
> attempting the same exploitation as yourselves - I'm going to be
> supporting your competition now.
>
> I predict you are fighting a losing battle trying to dominate
> keyboard user manuals - they should be and will be distributed freely.
>
> regards,
> Mike
>
> disclaimer - any use of "You" refers to the companies mentioned and
> of course is not intended as a personal attack on the recipient,
> apologies if read as such.
>
> I also realise I've probably violated my VFX list member probation
> and will understand if I get kicked off - I just feel strongly about
> this issue at the moment.
>
>>>
>>  Frank and others considering posting VFX manuals and or any
> Ensoniq manuals here.
>>
>>  www.Route66studios.com and www.Syntuar.com are both licensed
> sellers of these manuals, you would be stepping on toes.
>>
>> As far as this thread goes the gentleman from Australia stated that
> the shipping and customs tax was too high. I am not sure where he
> came up with this but flat rate to Australia is $9.00 via Global
> priority mail and there is NO duty tax if the customs form is checked
> as a gift.
>>
>>  Richard at Route 66
>