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...what happened to my SD-1?!?

...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by somethingkillingyou

hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...

of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)

so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 

I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)


greetings

Fabio

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by Eric Hall

Might have just crashed because it got to hot. My VFX-SD has done that before, though maybe not in that exact way. I put an old computer cooling fan on the heat sink and now I can leave it on 24/7 no problem. It's amazingly stable when you add a little cooling. 

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
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From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:14 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),

I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...

I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...



of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)



so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 



I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 

I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)



greetings



Fabio

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by somethingkillingyou

well I hope so! 
btw I'm not skilled at all when it comes to electronic stuff, so I really can't do that modification myself...
so maybe an ecooler would fix that?! 
I don't do gigs, but sure I don't like the fact that it gets too hot and it's not that reliable in its actual state...

is the ecooler also available for european 220v voltage?!

p.s. should I check the fuse(s) anyway?!
Fabio

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@...> wrote:
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> Might have just crashed because it got to hot. My VFX-SD has done that before, though maybe not in that exact way. I put an old computer cooling fan on the heat sink and now I can leave it on 24/7 no problem. It's amazingly stable when you add a little cooling. 
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
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> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:14 PM
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>       hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
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> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
> 
> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...
> 
> 
> 
> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)
> 
> 
> 
> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 
> 
> 
> 
> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
> 
> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)
> 
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> 
> greetings
> 
> 
> 
> Fabio
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by David L. aka UCanDream

I totally agree with Eric.

Most Ensoniqs were notorious for getting hot. I have owned 5 Prophet 5's and none of them got nearly as hot as my SD-1. My VFX-SD was the same...hot hot hot! We all know that heat is an electronic component killer! I cannot stress the importance of getting a small fan ($5) and rig it to your VFX. That's right, jerry-rig it in some way. Don't make excuses, don't wait another day, don't spend $100 (or however much they are) on the 'special Ensoniq coolers' (total rip!). I have a 3-tier keyboard rack and the SD sits on top. A $5.00 fan from WalMart leans against the heat sink and runds whenever my studio is on. The sink never even gets warm. When I bought my SD in the early 90's the heat sink would get almost too hot to touch.

If you want a pic of my 'jerry-rigged' fan I will be glad to post it. Don't spend more than 5 or 10 bucks on this problem. It's a super simple fix. Nothing complicated. Not $100. No- we aren't going to Scotch-tape a fan to our Ensoniq. Let me know if I can't be more clear...lol.

Kind regards,
UCD




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From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:14:44 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...

of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)

so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 

I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)

greetings

Fabio

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by somethingkillingyou

...of course I'd like to spend the less possible to get it fixed!
how should I proceed!? can you give me more infos?! 
like I said, I'm not in good terms with electronic stuff :)

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@...> wrote:
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>
> I totally agree with Eric.
> 
> Most Ensoniqs were notorious for getting hot. I have owned 5 Prophet 5's and none of them got nearly as hot as my SD-1. My VFX-SD was the same...hot hot hot! We all know that heat is an electronic component killer! I cannot stress the importance of getting a small fan ($5) and rig it to your VFX. That's right, jerry-rig it in some way. Don't make excuses, don't wait another day, don't spend $100 (or however much they are) on the 'special Ensoniq coolers' (total rip!). I have a 3-tier keyboard rack and the SD sits on top. A $5.00 fan from WalMart leans against the heat sink and runds whenever my studio is on. The sink never even gets warm. When I bought my SD in the early 90's the heat sink would get almost too hot to touch.
> 
> If you want a pic of my 'jerry-rigged' fan I will be glad to post it. Don't spend more than 5 or 10 bucks on this problem. It's a super simple fix. Nothing complicated. Not $100. No- we aren't going to Scotch-tape a fan to our Ensoniq. Let me know if I can't be more clear...lol.
> 
> Kind regards,
> UCD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:14:44 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...
> 
> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)
> 
> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 
> 
> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)
> 
> greetings
> 
> Fabio
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by David L. aka UCanDream

Fabio,

Your fuse isn't blown if the unit still made music. It might satisfy your curiousity (or anxiety) to open it up and locate any potential source of 'burnt smell' inside. DON'T touch anything inside without a grounding strap on your wrist. Make sure (sorry to state the over-obvious) the VFX is unplugged. The "pop" may or may not have been a static discharge (unlikely, though) or some component anomaly related to over-heating.

If the heating problem didn't kill your VFX this time, be sure of this: IT WILL eventually. An E-Cooler is a very expensive solution to an active cooling remedy. It might be prettier than a $5 Walmart fan but it is also on the back of the unit. And since most of us are not having our Ensoniqs pose in fasion shows it seems to me that asthetics are not at all important.

There's my 2 cents worth...


UCD




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From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:41:55 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
well I hope so! 
btw I'm not skilled at all when it comes to electronic stuff, so I really can't do that modification myself...
so maybe an ecooler would fix that?! 
I don't do gigs, but sure I don't like the fact that it gets too hot and it's not that reliable in its actual state...

is the ecooler also available for european 220v voltage?!

p.s. should I check the fuse(s) anyway?!
Fabio

--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Eric Hall <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
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>
> Might have just crashed because it got to hot. My VFX-SD has done that before, though maybe not in that exact way. I put an old computer cooling fan on the heat sink and now I can leave it on 24/7 no problem. It's amazingly stable when you add a little cooling. 
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/8/09, somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...> wrote:
> 
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:14 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
> 
> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
> 
> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...
> 
> 
> 
> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)
> 
> 
> 
> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 
> 
> 
> 
> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
> 
> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)
> 
> 
> 
> greetings
> 
> 
> 
> Fabio
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by David L. aka UCanDream

A little later today I will email a pic of my goofy little fan solution. I will get to it quickly if I can...probably not for a while though...

In the mean time just be careful.


:-)

UCD




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From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:55:09 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
...of course I'd like to spend the less possible to get it fixed!
how should I proceed!? can you give me more infos?! 
like I said, I'm not in good terms with electronic stuff :)

--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@. ..> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I totally agree with Eric.
> 
> Most Ensoniqs were notorious for getting hot. I have owned 5 Prophet 5's and none of them got nearly as hot as my SD-1. My VFX-SD was the same...hot hot hot! We all know that heat is an electronic component killer! I cannot stress the importance of getting a small fan ($5) and rig it to your VFX. That's right, jerry-rig it in some way. Don't make excuses, don't wait another day, don't spend $100 (or however much they are) on the 'special Ensoniq coolers' (total rip!). I have a 3-tier keyboard rack and the SD sits on top. A $5.00 fan from WalMart leans against the heat sink and runds whenever my studio is on. The sink never even gets warm. When I bought my SD in the early 90's the heat sink would get almost too hot to touch.
> 
> If you want a pic of my 'jerry-rigged' fan I will be glad to post it. Don't spend more than 5 or 10 bucks on this problem. It's a super simple fix. Nothing complicated. Not $100. No- we aren't going to Scotch-tape a fan to our Ensoniq. Let me know if I can't be more clear...lol.
> 
> Kind regards,
> UCD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:14:44 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...
> 
> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)
> 
> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 
> 
> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)
> 
> greetings
> 
> Fabio
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by Eric Hall

My method:

Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/external power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1. 

Eric 

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:

From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:55 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      ...of course I'd like to spend the less possible to get it fixed!

how should I proceed!? can you give me more infos?! 

like I said, I'm not in good terms with electronic stuff :)



--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@. ..> wrote:
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>

> I totally agree with Eric.

> 

> Most Ensoniqs were notorious for getting hot. I have owned 5 Prophet 5's and none of them got nearly as hot as my SD-1. My VFX-SD was the same...hot hot hot! We all know that heat is an electronic component killer! I cannot stress the importance of getting a small fan ($5) and rig it to your VFX. That's right, jerry-rig it in some way. Don't make excuses, don't wait another day, don't spend $100 (or however much they are) on the 'special Ensoniq coolers' (total rip!). I have a 3-tier keyboard rack and the SD sits on top. A $5.00 fan from WalMart leans against the heat sink and runds whenever my studio is on. The sink never even gets warm. When I bought my SD in the early 90's the heat sink would get almost too hot to touch.

> 

> If you want a pic of my 'jerry-rigged' fan I will be glad to post it. Don't spend more than 5 or 10 bucks on this problem. It's a super simple fix. Nothing complicated. Not $100. No- we aren't going to Scotch-tape a fan to our Ensoniq. Let me know if I can't be more clear...lol.

> 

> Kind regards,

> UCD

> 

> 

> 

> 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>

> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:14:44 AM

> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

> 

> Â  

> hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),

> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...

> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...

> 

> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)

> 

> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 

> 

> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 

> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)

> 

> greetings

> 

> Fabio

>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-08 by David L. aka UCanDream

Eric.. Fantastic!

I like what you did better than my what I did. My fan is just leaning in place...but it works and there is very little chance it will not stay put. The only advantage to what I did is that I used a mini fan and just plugged right into the wall. Butif urs gets bumped it wont fall off like mine will.   

Cheers,
UCD




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From: Eric Hall <jester_123@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:05:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
My method:

Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1. 

Eric 

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou @...> wrote:
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>From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou @...>
>Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
>To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
>Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:55 PM
>
>
>  
>...of course I'd like to spend the less possible to get it fixed!
>how should I proceed!? can you give me more infos?! 
>like I said, I'm not in good terms with electronic stuff :)
>
>--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@. ..> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Eric.
>> 
>> Most Ensoniqs were notorious for getting hot. I have owned 5 Prophet 5's and none of them got nearly as hot as my SD-1. My VFX-SD was the same...hot hot hot! We all know that heat is an electronic component killer! I cannot stress the importance of getting a small fan ($5) and rig it to your VFX. That's right, jerry-rig it in some way. Don't make excuses, don't wait another day, don't spend $100 (or however much they are) on the 'special Ensoniq coolers' (total rip!). I have a 3-tier keyboard rack and the SD sits on top. A $5.00 fan from WalMart leans against the heat sink and runds whenever my studio is on. The sink never even gets warm. When I bought my SD in the early 90's the heat sink would get almost too hot to touch.
>> 
>> If you want a pic of my 'jerry-rigged' fan I will be glad to post it. Don't spend more than 5 or 10 bucks on this problem. It's a super simple fix. Nothing complicated. Not $100. No- we aren't going to Scotch-tape a fan to our Ensoniq. Let me know if I can't be more clear...lol.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> UCD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
>> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
>> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:14:44 AM
>> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
>> 
>> Â  
>> hi guys (and girls?! are there girls here?! don't know...),
>> I was jamming in my studio; after two hours circa I heard a 'boom' through my studio monitors, and guess what!?, my sd-1 display was black...
>> I turned the power off and on again to see what was going on, and the display was working again, so I played 2/3 notes just to be sure it was still making sounds, then I switched it off because I was a bit scared by what had just happened...
>> 
>> of course the zone near the psu was hot as hell (just the way it always is), so I guess I should not let it powered on unless I really need to use it (I wasn't even playing it today...)
>> 
>> so, what did happen?! a fuse blown?! 
>> 
>> I have yet to open it, so I guess I should be looking for something in particular, given the facts I just described... 
>> I'm no technician at all, but I think I could easily change blown fuse(s)
>> 
>> greetings
>> 
>> Fabio
>>
>
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by Sonic Amigos Support

Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air  
flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards  
the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan  
point?
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On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:

> Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find  
> and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/external  
> power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the  
> old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat  
> sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on  
> you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by somethingkillingyou

let's make something like that
http://www.route66studios.com/resources/_wsb_418x118_ecool1.jpg
but that doesn't cost 100 $ then...

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@...> wrote:
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>
> Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air  
> flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards  
> the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan  
> point?
> 
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> 
> > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find  
> > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/external  
> > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the  
> > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat  
> > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on  
> > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by Eric Hall

I pointed mine to blow air on the heat sink.

Eric

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@...> wrote:

From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@...>
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:14 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air  

flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards  

the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan  

point?
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On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:



> Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find  

> and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external  

> power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the  

> old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat  

> sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on  

> you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by David L. aka UCanDream

No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...

...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 

But, you have invoked an 'over explanation'.    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.

Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 

Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.

I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.


UCD

 



________________________________
From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
point?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:

> Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by Dwight Sanford

I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.




________________________________
From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...

...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 

But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.

Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 

Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.

I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.


UCD

 



________________________________
From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicamig os.com>
To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
point?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:

> Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by David L. aka UCanDream

Yeah,

You're pretty bright, Dwight. Why bother with a five minute fix on a synth when there's a dumpster nearby. 

Here's some helpful advice: 'If you dont like what people are writing  !  stop reading.'                        




________________________________
From: Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.




________________________________
From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@yahoo. com>
To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...

...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 

But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.

Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 

Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.

I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.


UCD

 



________________________________
From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicamig os.com>
To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
point?
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:

> Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by somethingkillingyou

you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> 
> ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> 
> But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.
> 
> Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> 
> Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> 
> I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> 
> 
> UCD
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicamig os.com>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> point?
> 
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> 
> > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by David L. aka UCanDream

LOL.

Nicely put, Somethingkillingyou!

Oh yeah, he also told us to stop mailing... Is this Yahoo group closing down now to accomodate Dwight?




________________________________
From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:23:01 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...

--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@ ...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@. ..>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> 
> ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> 
> But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.
> 
> Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> 
> Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> 
> I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> 
> 
> UCD
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicami g os.com>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> point?
> 
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> 
> > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
>

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by somethingkillingyou

maybe he was meaning HE will stop mailing...
but he could have just quit without saying those bullshits...

even if his own synth was beyond repair, it's very stupid and pointless to describe a VFX/VFX-SD/SD1 as a piece of shit, given the fact that almost every single synth model produced has its weak point(s) (dying displays, battery leaking, etc.)... 
everything dies, and electronic components are no exception, sometimes they just die at a certain point and under certain circumstances, so you've got to go through repairing your synth(s) at a given time...

I just had my Oberheim OB12 fixed (display leds common failure) and I'm waiting for my Kawai K3 to come back (I think one of the ssm2044 filter's gone)... I'm swearing a lot when those things happen, but I'm not gonna tell my synths are crap (if I don't like a synth, I simply sell it and buy another one...)

Fabio

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> LOL.
> 
> Nicely put, Somethingkillingyou!
> 
> Oh yeah, he also told us to stop mailing... Is this Yahoo group closing down now to accomodate Dwight?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:23:01 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@ ..>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> >   
> > No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> > 
> > ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> > 
> > But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this dicussion.
> > 
> > Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> > 
> > Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> > 
> > I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> > 
> > 
> > UCD
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicami g os.com>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> >   
> > Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> > flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> > the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> > point?
> > 
> > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> > 
> > > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
> >
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-09 by David L. aka UCanDream

I totally agree with ya....

I wasn't taking him at all serious. I was just toying with the man's idiocy. In view of the comments he made about his overheating Ensoniq and given that he "throwed" (lol) it in the dumpster I couldn't help but think that he's got anger issues that Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com isn't really equipped to deal with. (Nor do we care to.) 

I'm trying to imagine thowing my SD-1 in a dumpster if it overheats and breaks down..............



.....................................thinking.......................................



.....................................Nope, it aint happenin'. I'm not tossing it!




________________________________
From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:57:44 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

  
maybe he was meaning HE will stop mailing...
but he could have just quit without saying those bullshits...

even if his own synth was beyond repair, it's very stupid and pointless to describe a VFX/VFX-SD/SD1 as a piece of shit, given the fact that almost every single synth model produced has its weak point(s) (dying displays, battery leaking, etc.)... 
everything dies, and electronic components are no exception, sometimes they just die at a certain point and under certain circumstances, so you've got to go through repairing your synth(s) at a given time...

I just had my Oberheim OB12 fixed (display leds common failure) and I'm waiting for my Kawai K3 to come back (I think one of the ssm2044 filter's gone)... I'm swearing a lot when those things happen, but I'm not gonna tell my synths are crap (if I don't like a synth, I simply sell it and buy another one...)

Fabio

--- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@. ..> wrote:
>
> LOL.
> 
> Nicely put, Somethingkillingyou !
> 
> Oh yeah, he also told us to stop mailing... Is this Yahoo group closing down now to accomodate Dwight?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:23:01 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@ ..>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> >   
> > No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> > 
> > ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> > 
> > But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this
 dicussion.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > 
> > Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> > 
> > Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> > 
> > I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> > 
> > 
> > UCD
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicami g os.com>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> >   
> > Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> > flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> > the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> > point?
> > 
> > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> > 
> > > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
> >
>

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-10 by somethingkillingyou

got your point, I just wanted to remark the fact that "things get damaged, things get broken" like our friends D.M. sing in one song of their...

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@...> wrote:
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>
> I totally agree with ya....
> 
> I wasn't taking him at all serious. I was just toying with the man's idiocy. In view of the comments he made about his overheating Ensoniq and given that he "throwed" (lol) it in the dumpster I couldn't help but think that he's got anger issues that Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com isn't really equipped to deal with. (Nor do we care to.) 
> 
> I'm trying to imagine thowing my SD-1 in a dumpster if it overheats and breaks down..............
> 
> 
> 
> .....................................thinking.......................................
> 
> 
> 
> .....................................Nope, it aint happenin'. I'm not tossing it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@...>
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:57:44 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> 
> Â  
> maybe he was meaning HE will stop mailing...
> but he could have just quit without saying those bullshits...
> 
> even if his own synth was beyond repair, it's very stupid and pointless to describe a VFX/VFX-SD/SD1 as a piece of shit, given the fact that almost every single synth model produced has its weak point(s) (dying displays, battery leaking, etc.)... 
> everything dies, and electronic components are no exception, sometimes they just die at a certain point and under certain circumstances, so you've got to go through repairing your synth(s) at a given time...
> 
> I just had my Oberheim OB12 fixed (display leds common failure) and I'm waiting for my Kawai K3 to come back (I think one of the ssm2044 filter's gone)... I'm swearing a lot when those things happen, but I'm not gonna tell my synths are crap (if I don't like a synth, I simply sell it and buy another one...)
> 
> Fabio
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > LOL.
> > 
> > Nicely put, Somethingkillingyou !
> > 
> > Oh yeah, he also told us to stop mailing... Is this Yahoo group closing down now to accomodate Dwight?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:23:01 PM
> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> >   
> > you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...
> > 
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@ ..>
> > > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > > 
> > >   
> > > No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> > > 
> > > ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> > > 
> > > But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this
>  dicussion.
> > > 
> > > Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> > > 
> > > Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> > > 
> > > I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > UCD
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicami g os.com>
> > > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> > > flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> > > the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> > > point?
> > > 
> > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > > > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > > > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > > > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > > > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > > > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
> > >
> >
>

Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?

2009-11-11 by wjwilcox@sbcglobal.net

Golly, my SD1 has stayed cool all week.

Oh, wait...I haven't turned it on all week.

But seriously, folks, the cheapo fan aimed at the heat sink works wonders.  I played an outdoor gig last summer where the air temperature when we started playing was 95 degrees.  I had a little bitty ancient desk top fan on a picnic bench in front of my stand aimed at the SD1's heat sink and it was cool and stable during the whole show.  I, on the other had, must have sweated off about 5 pounds that night.....

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "somethingkillingyou" <somethingkillingyou@...> wrote:
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>
> got your point, I just wanted to remark the fact that "things get damaged, things get broken" like our friends D.M. sing in one song of their...
> 
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@> wrote:
> >
> > I totally agree with ya....
> > 
> > I wasn't taking him at all serious. I was just toying with the man's idiocy. In view of the comments he made about his overheating Ensoniq and given that he "throwed" (lol) it in the dumpster I couldn't help but think that he's got anger issues that Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com isn't really equipped to deal with. (Nor do we care to.) 
> > 
> > I'm trying to imagine thowing my SD-1 in a dumpster if it overheats and breaks down..............
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .....................................thinking.......................................
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .....................................Nope, it aint happenin'. I'm not tossing it!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyou@>
> > To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:57:44 PM
> > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > 
> > Â  
> > maybe he was meaning HE will stop mailing...
> > but he could have just quit without saying those bullshits...
> > 
> > even if his own synth was beyond repair, it's very stupid and pointless to describe a VFX/VFX-SD/SD1 as a piece of shit, given the fact that almost every single synth model produced has its weak point(s) (dying displays, battery leaking, etc.)... 
> > everything dies, and electronic components are no exception, sometimes they just die at a certain point and under certain circumstances, so you've got to go through repairing your synth(s) at a given time...
> > 
> > I just had my Oberheim OB12 fixed (display leds common failure) and I'm waiting for my Kawai K3 to come back (I think one of the ssm2044 filter's gone)... I'm swearing a lot when those things happen, but I'm not gonna tell my synths are crap (if I don't like a synth, I simply sell it and buy another one...)
> > 
> > Fabio
> > 
> > --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, "David L. aka UCanDream" <u_c_dream@ ..> wrote:
> > >
> > > LOL.
> > > 
> > > Nicely put, Somethingkillingyou !
> > > 
> > > Oh yeah, he also told us to stop mailing... Is this Yahoo group closing down now to accomodate Dwight?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > From: somethingkillingyou <somethingkillingyo u@...>
> > > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:23:01 PM
> > > Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > > 
> > >   
> > > you could have given it to someone with more patience and more brain...
> > > 
> > > --- In Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com, Dwight Sanford <amonsanford@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I throwed that piece of shit in the dumpster a year ago cas it was some problem all the time ! stop mailing.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: David L. aka UCanDream <u_c_dream@ ..>
> > > > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 8:57:41 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > No, you aren't asking a dumb question...we all make inquiries from time to time that seem silly...
> > > > 
> > > > ...but honestly, you are WAY over thinking this problem. 
> > > > 
> > > > But, you have invoked an 'over explanation' .    Here's how it work: The heat sink you have on your Ensoniq is a very simple method of drawing accumulated heat away from the internal components attached to it using thermal contact. It is referred to as passive cooling. "Passive" in that there is no air forced to move onto, at, or over the heat sink fins. By making use of a fan you are providing the heat sink with "active cooling." If you consider what is actually happening when you use a fan the answer to your question becomes apparent. Whether you point a fan away from the sink, thereby drawing air to and thru the top and the bottom of the fins and then thru the front of the fan, or point the fan directly at the heat sink you are getting far more cooling then Ensoniq engineers deemed necessary to keep the unit at a safe operating temperature. However, all of us know now that heat IS an issue with these boards, hence, this
> >  dicussion.
> > > > 
> > > > Getting back on track: If you were to point the fan directly at the heat sink then you are effectively maximizing the available forced air right onto the fins. The harder the air is hitting that sink the more effective the cooling becomes. In my experience it is most effective to point air right at the heat sink. In one of my previous posts I indicated the results I have from just using a tiny $5.00 fan from Walmart. Just last night I touched the heat sink after moving the fan away from it a little and if it hadn't been for the lit display, I would have wondered if my SD-1 was even on...it was that cool. Now isn't that cool? 
> > > > 
> > > > Consider, too, that in your car air is forced (whether the fan is on or the car is in motion) THRU the radiator and not shot down at it from an angle using some goofy induction. It (the air) just moves in a straight line at the radiator fins.
> > > > 
> > > > I think I just explained this thing to death...lol.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > UCD
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: Sonic Amigos Support <sasupport@sonicami g os.com>
> > > > To: Ensoniq-VFX- SD@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 5:14:20 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX- SD] Re: ...what happened to my SD-1?!?
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > Maybe this is a dumb question, but should the fan(s) direct hot air 
> > > > flow away from the heatsink fins, or direct cooler ambient air towards 
> > > > the fins? Or to put it another way, which direction should the fan 
> > > > point?
> > > > 
> > > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Find an old junk computer and take out the CPU cooling fan. Now find 
> > > > > and old "wall wort" - a 9 to12 volt step down transformer/ external 
> > > > > power supply from something that you don't need. Hook that up to the 
> > > > > old computer fan. Find some way of fastening the fan to the heat 
> > > > > sink. I used expanding wall fasteners between the fins. From then on 
> > > > > you will enjoy a very stable VFX/SD-1.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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