Alan, That's right, it isn't very high for digital circuitry. A 16F877 and a few other supporting ICs will run the count up in a hurry. That's why I mentioned that my 215-pin design was discrete components only. The design was the IF system in Figure 6.50 of "Experimental Methods for RF Design", the one using two pairs of J310 JFETs in cascoded arrangement. There are a lot of components in that design, and I had about a 1 square inch open area left on the 3 x 4 Eagle board when I was finished. I manually routed the board as I went, by the way. I added the components for a functional section to the schematic, for example the JFET pairs and associated circuitry for the board signal input from the crystal filter, laid them out on the board in a logical position, and routed; then I moved on to the next section, etc., following the signal flow from the schematic in the figure. Doing it that way made it pretty easy to tweak the routing when I had all of the components on the board, without having to unsnarl any oddball paths created by autorouting. I found that when I'd rip up a few tracks to move components around a bit, I could just hit the autoroute icon, and it would redo the routes pretty much as I wanted. Originally, I laid the board out with two 12 volt feeds, and some jumpers from the on-board regulator for Vcc to various points in the cicuit, but as it turned out, I was able to lay down tracks for most of the power feeds to the functional sections by the time I was finished. I did this board with a ground plane for the component side. To avoid having to mill clearance holes for non-grounded through-hole component leads, I exported the board image as a BMP file, and using the layer feature in Photoshop (freeware Paint.net will do layers, too), I manually added circular clearance holes for the ground plane side. After I printed the bottom layer tracks and ironed, I drilled a few holes in through-component lead pads to line up the holes, and then aligned the ground plane printout by holding the board up to the light. Then I ironed the ground plane pattern onto the PCB. I found that when I reheated the board while ironing on the ground plane/component side, some of the bottom layer tracks' toner transferred to the pad I was using as a surface for ironing. Next time I do a double-sided board, I think I'll etch the tracks side (masking the other side with electrical tape), drill my registration holes, and then iron the ground plane side. It shouldn't be necessary to do it that way. Under my old process of applying the toner to Press-n-Peel Blue with a copier, that reverse-transfer wouldn't have happened. P-n-P is so tough when it's applied with a copier, you just about have to sand it off (or use acetone, as I learned after many boards :) ). Now that I'm using my Brother 2040 laser printer for toner transfer, I have real problems in getting the toner to stick to the board in the first place, which has been much discussed here in this group. 73, Ted KX4OM www.kx4om.com --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Marconett" <KM6VV@...> wrote: > > Hi Ted, > > That doesn't seem very high. I easily exceeded that in the little PIC > design I'm doing. Connectors eat up a lot of pins I guess. Digital > probably has more pins typically then analog. I'm at maybe 350-400 now. > But then this is really my first PCB project (that I'm laying out) in a long > time. > ---snip--- > > The free version of DipTrace has no limit on board size, but is > > "complexity limited" by a 250 pin maximum, which is fairly generous. > > I did a receiver IF system using all discrete components in Eagle, > > which pretty much filled the board, and the pin count was 215. > > DipTrace would be especially good for boards that need large foil > > traces, physical separation and have physically large components, such > > as power supplies with board mounted transformers and large > > computer-grade electrolytic caps. > > > > Cheers, > > Ted KX4OM
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Re: freeware CAD EAGLE -> (Alan Marconett)
2006-03-17 by kilocycles
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