Hi Ted, That IS a lot of parts for a discrete RF design! I can see how working back and forth on the schematic and layout would be an ideal way to get good routes. Do you already have a parts layout in mind before you do this? I got into the habit of laying out wire-wrap projects by inserting WW sockets into prototype board beforehand to get an idea of the layout. Discrete parts as well. But then I would solder ALL of the sockets down first. This "tightly interactive" annotation between schematic and layout is great! On this board I found that the "flying wires" and parts profiles made it fairly easy to initially get all of the packages down and roughly orientated. Quite a difference from working with a bag of WW sockets! I won't be using a ground plane, but it's nice to learn how you've done it. Hopefully I'll be able to MILL isolation traces, but I may also try Press-n-Peel Blue, just to be able to compare the results. I have been wondering how much of the board to manually route, and when to just let the auto-router do it. Last night I got my first exposure to routing power traces by hand, and watching the flying wires disappear after a net was routed (and the rat's nest updated). CUTE! I thought I'd run into a snag when I routed a ground trace from an IC over to a servo ground. I couldn't delete my added route! But I found out that if I ripped it up (back to an air line) that the rat's nest update would then delete the bit I wanted (I already had the two nodes connected; I didn't want a ground loop). I also found out how to rip up the entire board, which I needed! 73's, Alan KM6VV > > Alan, > That's right, it isn't very high for digital circuitry. A 16F877 and > a few other supporting ICs will run the count up in a hurry. That's > why I mentioned that my 215-pin design was discrete components only. > The design was the IF system in Figure 6.50 of "Experimental Methods > for RF Design", the one using two pairs of J310 JFETs in cascoded > arrangement. There are a lot of components in that design, and I had > about a 1 square inch open area left on the 3 x 4 Eagle board when I > was finished. > > I manually routed the board as I went, by the way. I added the > components for a functional section to the schematic, for example the > JFET pairs and associated circuitry for the board signal input from > the crystal filter, laid them out on the board in a logical position, > and routed; then I moved on to the next section, etc., following the > signal flow from the schematic in the figure. > > Doing it that way made it pretty easy to tweak the routing when I had > all of the components on the board, without having to unsnarl any > oddball paths created by autorouting. I found that when I'd rip up a > few tracks to move components around a bit, I could just hit the > autoroute icon, and it would redo the routes pretty much as I wanted. > > Originally, I laid the board out with two 12 volt feeds, and some > jumpers from the on-board regulator for Vcc to various points in the > cicuit, but as it turned out, I was able to lay down tracks for most > of the power feeds to the functional sections by the time I was finished. > > I did this board with a ground plane for the component side. To avoid > having to mill clearance holes for non-grounded through-hole component > leads, I exported the board image as a BMP file, and using the layer > feature in Photoshop (freeware Paint.net will do layers, too), I > manually added circular clearance holes for the ground plane side. > After I printed the bottom layer tracks and ironed, I drilled a few > holes in through-component lead pads to line up the holes, and then > aligned the ground plane printout by holding the board up to the > light. Then I ironed the ground plane pattern onto the PCB. > > I found that when I reheated the board while ironing on the ground > plane/component side, some of the bottom layer tracks' toner > transferred to the pad I was using as a surface for ironing. Next > time I do a double-sided board, I think I'll etch the tracks side > (masking the other side with electrical tape), drill my registration > holes, and then iron the ground plane side. It shouldn't be necessary > to do it that way. Under my old process of applying the toner to > Press-n-Peel Blue with a copier, that reverse-transfer wouldn't have > happened. P-n-P is so tough when it's applied with a copier, you just > about have to sand it off (or use acetone, as I learned after many > boards :) ). Now that I'm using my Brother 2040 laser printer for > toner transfer, I have real problems in getting the toner to stick to > the board in the first place, which has been much discussed here in > this group. > > 73, > Ted KX4OM > www.kx4om.com >
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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: freeware CAD EAGLE -> (Alan Marconett)
2006-03-17 by Alan Marconett
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