I once tried to built a bubble agitated developer but found the bubbles could not reliably remove the dry-film from the board. In the end I found best results using something similar to what Tom described with the brush. I also agree with Tom that you could be suffering dry-film residue, which is an invisible scum left behind after developing and is impermeable to the etchant. I am only familiar with negative dryfilm, are you sure the boards are this film or is it positive pre coated PCB material often sold at hobby shops ? The way to check if you have a residue problem is after about 1 minute in the etchant you should see the copper turn matte pink. If it still shows shinny scrubbing marks then its dry-film scum. This happens when the dry film has been on the board longer than a few weeks. I have some stuff that's over a year old and is a problem to develop. The way to develop these boards is to extend the developing time (brushing over the board for upto 3 minutes). I put it in the etcher and if the copper doesn't become matte pink over the entire board then I take it back to the developer and brush over it for another minute. The second pass usually gets it all. I apply my own dry-film these days and develop the board the same day so I never have residue problems. Ron Amundson wrote: > I'll give the brush solution a try tomorrow. As I purchase my boards pre > laminated with dry film, I'm sure cleanliness is not the issue, but > underdeveloped dry film resist probably is. > > I do my developing in a tray with agitation too, looks like I'll need to set > up a simple to do spraying. > > Thanks > Ron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <twb8899@...> > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:09 AM > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Ferric Chloride > > > >>Ron mentioned in a previous post that he was getting uneven etching >>with ferric chloride. When this happens it's usually due to under >>development of the photoresist. I am assuming that dry film resist is >>being used. The best way to develop dry film is with a spray tank set >>up with a 1% sodium carbonate (soda ash)solution. Find out how long >>it takes to "break through" to bare copper and then go about that >>same time again for final developing. For example if the bare copper >>shows up in 1 minute then continue the process for an additional 1 >>minute and then you can etch. >> >>Another good idea is to make up a tray of weak etchant from a couple >>of ounces of ferric chloride in one gallon of water. If a developed >>board is put into this solution for a minute or so the areas that are >>fully developed will turn a dark color and the under developed spots >>will show bright copper. This will amaze you the first time you see >>it because the panel still has some dry film "scum" on the surface >>when the board looked like it was fully developed. If the board has >>scum, just put back in the developer for a bit longer and try again. >>When a uniform dark color appears across the entire surface you will >>be ready for final etching and obtain excellent results. >> >>If developemnt is being done in a tray, try using a very soft >>bristled brush to gently work the solution across the board surface. >>This will help to break through any scum on the board. The bottom >>line is that this scum must be removed or you will never obtain >>uniform etching. Hope this idea helps out. >> >>Tom >> >> >> >> >>Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs >> >>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Ferric Chloride
2003-01-22 by Adam Seychell
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