Homebrew PCBs

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:06:25 +0100, epineh <russ_nat@...> wrote:

> Hi, my name is Russell, I started the thread on the printer mod in
> CNCzone.  For what it it worth, I did come here first and I didn't
> realize I was wasting my time, sorry bout that.  I got the
> inspiration from James's site and decided to post a log on CNCzone,
> as I thought others might benifit.  I like the forum format as I find
> it more organized and easier to get the info I need, each to their
> own.
> Not sure what you mean by the black ink example, I know one of the
> guys tried it as a resist, even though magenta seems to be better by
> all accounts, but people will experiment...
> I am getting the hang of this group's format, and sorry if my first
> post is a little negative, I think what you guys are achieving is
> awesome, I am all for getting helpful info to whoever wants to learn,
> that is my motivation in logging my printer mod attempt.  Wasn't
> thinking of an "us and them" scenario.
> Russell.


You can't possibly _harm_ the development of this process in any way if  
you take it to a dozen other places, since it is just additional people  
doing additional work getting additional results. This can only further  
the development of direct inkjet printing, which is the only thing i am  
interested in becasue i want to use it at some point for all my PCBs. I  
want as many people to work on it and use it as possible, because then we  
will get results. At the moment i had to freeze my efforts, but as i had  
hoped other people are getting on with it and i will have a great  
advantage from that when i get back to it. It is obvious that i can only  
benefit from any additional efforts by other people, and silly allegations  
by some folks don't even make any sense.

But what i'm saying is that we could benefit more from each other more if  
we all discussed it in one place, immediately sharing what we find out.  
There is no harm in making mistakes twice, individually, but there is also  
no real benefit from it. And "chance" discoveries are very tricky to  
repeat. If you look back in history most interesting developments have  
been worked on simultaneously, and perfected, by two or more totally  
independent individuals or groups. They just never knew ;-). I see no  
reason for that. It will be a lot better in this case since you read stuff  
here, and i'm sure if you find something important out you'll tell us, but  
i can't quite see the advantage of two places of discussion. I can  
understand why you like the forum better (i like the mailgroup better  
probably for much the same reasons just reversed), so if that is worth the  
fragmentation of information for you that's fine with me. Just let us know  
too if you find out something important ;-)

As to the black ink, yes, experimentation is always good (we'd have  
nothing without it), but as far as i'm aware everyone has found black to  
be just about the worst resist, so it makes it unnecessary hard to start  
with, maybe impossible.

Anyway, if i come across a bit grumpy, well, that's probably because i am  
like that most of the time. I'm lazy, and still want to make the best PCBs  
possible, so i'd love for other people to do all the development work for  
me, and that's much easier if they are all here putting that information  
right into my mailbox ;-). I'm only afraid i'll miss something, you  
mustn't be offended, ok?


ST