twb8899: I also remember cutting "Rubylith", but I guess that sort of stuff is gone forever. "Coordinatograph" pops up in my memory. Roland F. Harriston ***************** twb8899 wrote: > > Roland, > > You're correct about using the methods I mentioned earlier for micro > wave strip lines. I used to have a commercial shop and used much of > the same equipment I now have to make strip line and other RF > circuits. These were for McDonnell F/A-18 parts and equipment. I > closed that plant several years ago but kept most of the smaller > equipment for my home based shop. > > I built my spray developer and spray etcher from scratch and use them > all the time. They are a simple design and kind of based on the Kepro > stuff. When Kepro shut down I bought quite a bit of the manufacturing > equipment they used to make their products. I'm now thinking about > making the etchers myself and offering them for sale. Biggest problem > is getting the cost down. The Kepro units were way too expensive and > could probably be offered for a more attractive price with some > engineering changes. > > This new spray etcher is in the works but it's still to early to say > much about it except that the prototype works great. If we can get the > cost just right it will be available later this summer. If anyone is > interested in a product like this contact me by email and I'll forward > photographs and more information when we are ready to go. > > Tom > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, "Roland F. Harriston" > <rolohar@...> wrote: > > > > twb8899: > > > > Your technique is probably the most "professional" > > that I've read about on this forum. > > > > Negative acting resist may have an edge over > > the positive stuff, and may produce better products. > > > > I don't know if "Resiston" or any of the laminated resist > > materials are still being made, but this stuff worked really good. > > But one needs to have a dry film laminating setup to use it. > > > > I recall the excellent results that Kodak KPR resists > > could produce, but alas, the Feds said it was too > > nasty and Kodak moved away from it, although I > > think some version of KPR is still being made for > > the microcircuit fab industry, but not generally > > available to the public. > > > > A lot of microstripline work used to be done using > > the photo plotter methods you described, but I've been divorced > > from that area for so long, I don't know what they > > are using now. It might be interesting to set up a > > plotter using an LED "pen" in a dark box to plot > > on sheets of litho film and then develop the film > > in AB litho developer. I think such a setup could > > produce some really high contrast PC artwork. > > > > Having done "tape-up" artwork as large as 10X, > > and having it reduced to Actual on a big copy > > camera, I have a feeling for the accuracy one can > > obtain from the methods you described. > > > > Good Show! > > > > Roland F. Harriston > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twb8899 wrote: > > > > > > > > > I use photo plotted film negatives with negative acting dry film photo > > > resist. Expose with 1 kW mercury vapor bulb for 17 seconds. Etching is > > > with ferric chloride at 110 degrees F in a small spray etcher. I use > > > negative acting resist because it's lower cost and exposes much faster > > > than positive types. Almost never have any rejects using this method. > > > My production is 10 to 50 boards per lot with nearly 100% yield every > > > time. > > > > > > Find a supplier in your area with a photo plotter to make your films. > > > If that's not available plot the design at 2:1 scale with black ink on > > > white paper and have a printing shop shoot a negative film at 50% > > > reduction on their camera. You will have a high accuracy master film > > > that will last for years. > > > > > > Do some research on D-min and D-max concerning photo films. It's the > > > measure of density in the clear and black areas of the film. The > > > biggest problem with laser and ink jet printing is not enough D-max or > > > very dense black areas. Shine a lamp through the black areas of your > > > film and look at it with a maginfier. This is what your photoresist is > > > seeing and it's usually not dense enough for a proper exposure. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, "lcdpublishing" > > > <lcdpublishing@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > I have almost given up on direct ink-jet resist and on "plotting" > > > > with Staedtler pens using the CNC machine, and I am about to abandon > > > > toner transfer. Only problem with toner transfer is the "scaling" > > > > issues either through the printer or from the paper not being stable > > > > which causes problem with CNC drilling. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I ordered up some negative type resist chemical, the > > > > developer, a lamp, and an exposure frame. I am not expecting this > > > > to go "perfectly" either, but am hoping to have a bit less > > > > frustration in other areas. > > > > > > > > I am thinking the best accuracy I can get when printing is to use an > > > > ink jet printer (I have Epson R220 and Epson CX6600). I have a PDF > > > > editor program that allows me to edit trace colors and back ground > > > > colors so that I can make negatives so that shouldn't be a problem. > > > > > > > > The first "problem" I suspect I will run into is getting enough > > > > density on the transparency to make sure the "black" areas are dense > > > > enough to block out the UV exposure lamp where needed. Has anyone > > > > run into this issue and how do you deal with it? > > > > > > > > Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated as well as this is > > > > my first time for "photo-processing". > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Photo-resist etching questions....
2007-05-21 by Roland F. Harriston
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