I was using pretty much the same procedure (before Toner Dusting that is) Look for a laminator that has an adjustable temp setting. There is a Xerox branded one that is pretty cheap."Foil" gives the best results with multiple passes. Remember to clean the pcb well and rinse in a solvent first, to remove all of the oils. A little automatoic dishwasher detergent in the soak bath helps, The surfactants help wet out the paper and the alkali helps separate the fibers. Myc On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, phildimond <my-yahoo-groups@...>wrote: > I spent ages (years) trying to get TT working. I'm sure lots of people > have found that irons, etc do the job, but after about 5 years of > frustration, another member here gave me a sure-fire method... > > After using it very successfully now (100% success), I found that the > secrets (at least for me) were: > > 1. Use a laminator. I was probably way too impatient with the iron, or > used the wrong heat, or whatever. I was pointed to a GBC Creative > laminator, super cheap and needed no modifications. I run it through > (on a slight angle, not square to the feed rollers) ten times, artwork > attached to the PCB with real 3M Scotch Magic tape, which seems to > survive the heat well and leave little or no residue if removed carefully. > > 2. Cheap, super glossy magazine paper. I tried a few papers, and from > what I can see, you want a glossy paper, but one of low quality. You > actually want it to fall apart when you soak it. We call it "toner > transfer", but in my limited experience what happens is that the toner > sticks to the board, and the thin layer of paper that the toner is > attached to stays on the toner. The soaking process is about > separating that thin layer from the rest of the sheet. When I'm done, > my dry traces look grey, not black, because the top surface is a > micro-thin layer of paper still attached to the toner. > > I use super-glossy cheap magazine pages (the inner pages, not the covers) > > Phil > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Roland F. Harriston" > > <rolohar@...> wrote: > > > > Richad H. > > > > I agree with most of your observations. Perhaps using a laminator > > precludes the need to preheat the copper clad. I use a household iron, > > and find that preheating does contribute to success. > > > > Years ago, when I used Kodak KPR liquid resist, I learned that > > absolute cleanliness of the copper surface was the secret to > > getting a good resist coating using the "dip" method with the old > > Kepro dip tank. > > > > Cleanliness seems to be the key. > > > > If I could justify the cost of a laminator and the time > > to modify it, I'd certainly get one. > > But I do no more than eight or ten boards a year. > > > > I agree with your opinion regarding glossy paper. I have tried > > most of brands mentioned, and also find that the Hammermill > > paper is good and cheap. My last paper purchase was Hammermill > > "Office One" Business Gloss, 16302-0, 32 pound. > > > > Soaking in slightly warm water that contains a few drops > > of dish soap works fine. I just let the board soak until > > the paper lifts off. A bit of finger rubbing removes > > stubborn spots. > > > > Roland F. Harriston, PD > > ****************** > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re:Toner Transfer
2008-11-07 by Myc Holmes
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