--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "frankwinter1" <frankwinter1@...> wrote: > > I have been using "the" toner transfer method for about 2 years and > produced some very good PCBs. > Until a week ago! > I had problems making the toner sticking to the copper. > > After a lot of frustration I tracked the problem to the kind of > liquid soap I used with Scotchbright pads to clean the copper. > > It turned out that my wife changed the brand of liquid soap to > one "that is kind to your skin". So it may be - but it leaves an > invisible (oily?) film on the copper which is virtually undetectable. > > Using my old liquid soap brand cured the problem. > > I feel pretty silly now, but then again 20:20 hind sight always leads > to highly accurate observations. > > The moral of the story is of course - check the cleaning agent and > don't let your wife decide the brand. > > Frank > A mild etching of the copper before lamination will always help adhesion of the etch resist. This process is known as micro etching. I use a Dupont hot roll laminator to apply dry film photoresist for my boards but always microetch the blank panels first. One method that works good is a vinegar and peroxide mixture. This makes a very weak etchant that leaves a matte surface on the copper. Here is my process: Wet sand copper with 220 grit sandpaper using a bit of dish detergent Water rinse Soak in the microetch mixture for five minutes Rinse and dry Laminate dry film photoresist with hot roll laminator Wait thirty minutes for photoresist to bond Expose panels using film negative and UV light Wait twenty minutes for photoresist to polymerize Develop in 1% sodium carbonate (soda ash) solution Rinse Etch copper panels Rinse and dry This is the process I use and I make a lot of boards with almost zero rejects. Sanding and microetching the copper panels first is the most important step. Proper adhesion of the etching resist is critical as this prevents the etchant from lifting the edge of the resist. Micro etching should be used no matter what type of etch resist system you plan to use. Tom
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Re: Cleaning PCB Copper
2009-02-02 by twb8899
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