On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 20:09 +0200, Stefan Trethan wrote: > How about electrolysis? > > I experimented with etchant regeneration by electroplating before > (carbon welding rod electrodes) and got copper plated from the CuCl, > but there was also some gas created (probably hydrogen, oxygen, and > chlorine). > I don't think you get copper plated from the CuCl, just some removable wet deposit around the cathode. But i want to say something about chlorine gas use from HCl/CuCl electrolysis. I believe (but still not convinced) that found a simple way of doing this. But only for bubbling the resulting gas in to the CuCl etchant. The idea is use the old saturated CuCl to produce chlorine and oxygen to the new etchant while some copper gets deposited. Using a 'Hofmann voltameter' type of container to separate the Chlorine/oxygen gas from the hydrogen gas. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofmann_voltameter This 'Hofmann voltameter' was to make water electrolysis where both gases were collected in two different places. It can be made really simple by just using the normal etching plastic container and just a large vertical plastic tube inside the bath closed on top and with the anode on bottom. One rubber tube will leave the chlorine/oxygen gas to the etchant container. And the hydrogen gas will go to open air. Using HCl or CuCl if water electrolysis occurs the oxygen will also be on the anode. So no need of fine tune the voltage or current since both gases are positive for the CuCl regeneration. I use to buy 25% HCl in 1L. But one time i ask for a 5L container they give me HCl in 37% because it was the only they have in 5L. That thing was really gaseous. I believe that if i bubble air in 37% closed container and the a tube leave the gas to the etchant i will get big amount of chlorine in to the etchant. But electrolysis should work at lower concentrations. Big pcb shops seems to use a copper electrowinning process for CuCl, using a ion exchange membrane. And there is some processes to get chlorine gas from HCl using a proton membrane, were the hydrogen is mixed with air oxygen to get water. The only thing I found to be simple to do was this 'Hofmann voltameter', from which i expect critics.
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] CuCl electrolisys (was Oxygen tablets for CuCl regeneration)
2009-07-13 by Simao Cardoso
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