With a lot of help from this list and a lot of experimentation, I'm having much better success with my toner transfers. The process that finally ended up working for me for creating my first usable double-sided board went like this: 1) Discard overused boards. It's true you can transfer toner onto a board and then clean it back off and try again if it doesn't come out the first time. I had diminishing returns after my seventh or eighth try, and found it better to stop trying to salvage the board. 2) Line up the both sides of the board. I held the two sheets of magazine paper up to a worklight to line everything up, and then taped them together on one side with ordinary Scotch tape. 3) Clean board blank with acetone, scour with Scotchbrite pad, clean with dish-soap and hot water. 4) Pre-heat board to about 200F. 5) Place the board between the taped-together patterns, using the taped-edge as a guide. 6) Provide 1-minutes of constant pressure with the iron, then about 5-minutes of moving pressure. 7) Flip the board and repeat. 8) Drop the still-hot board immediately into hot water for 10-minutes. 9) Remove paper. Touch up any broken traces with a sharpie (industrial permanent ink, micro-fine point). Break any shorted traces with an x-acto knife. 10) To ensure that both surfaces of the board get evenly etched, I put small squares of foam mounting tape in inconspicuous corners of the bottom of my board. I use the 3M kind - this stuff's about 3-4mm thick, which gives enough clearance from the bottom of the tank. I left the paper on one side so it wouldn't stick to the tank. 11) I submerged the board in FeCl in a simple closeable plastic container. I held it over the stovetop on medium heat and hand-agitated the tank...I didn't measure the temperature here, but it was just cool enough to be able to easily hold the tank without gloves. I checked the progress of the etching intermittently, and found it barely took 5 minutes to get complete removal of unwanted copper without any etching into my traces. I dunked the board in cool water in a separate plastic container to stop the etching, and now have a nice looking, perfectly aligned double-sided board ready for drilling. -Andrew On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:03 PM, andrewmv@... <andrewmv@...>wrote: > > > I've just started attempting my first PCBs with the toner transfer method, > and I'm consistently getting terrible results. > > Some sections of the pattern transfer flawlessly to the board, while others > stay on the paper. I've tried varying heat, pressure, and ironing time, but > my results are always similar. > > It never seems to be the same parts of the pattern that come though, but I > never get the whole thing. > > My current process is: > > 1) Print the patterns in black toner on medium-gloss photo paper with a > Dell 5310n laser printer at my office. > 2) Scour the board blank in two orthogonal directions with 150 grit > sandpaper > 3) Clean the board blank with pure acetone > 4) Preheat the board to about 150 degrees Fahrenheit with an electric > clothes iron. I'm measuring with a handheld infrared HVAC thermometer. > 5) With the iron at about 400 degrees, I place the pattern toner-side down > on the board, and apply pressure with the iron. The pattern almost > immediately fuses to the copper, as I've seen suggested it should, and I > move the iron around the pattern regularly, applying a least two full > minutes of heat and pressure to every part of the board. > 6) I immediately place the board and paper into a bowl of hot water, and > let it soak for 10-20 minutes. > > I've tried variations on this...I initially skipped the scouring, cleaning, > or preheating the board. I've tried using mild pressure all the way up to my > full body weight. None of these significantly improved or worsened results. > > I tried letting the board fully cool before placing it into COLD water, as > I've seen suggested, and found that there was virtually no toner transfer > whatsoever. > > Any tips or ideas? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner transfer problems
2010-05-03 by Andrew Villeneuve
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