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Re: Problem removing toner) was MEK no longer in california

2011-01-31 by toneboy22

I've been using lacquer thinner since forever! for removing the toner resist from my pcbs.  Although ALL lacquer paint is banned from california, lacquer THINNER is sold everywhere: homedepot, lowes, automotive paint stores.  Use a clean rag and moisten it with lacquer thinner, then scrup/swipe the toner.  It melts! away.  Use clean portion of rag to wipe again checking for black.  When ALL black is gone, rag doesn't turn black, pcb should be clean.  I use latex gloves(nitril works too) because lacquer thinner drys out the skin VERY quickly.  Also, do this OUTSIDE as the fumes will kill U AND are EXTREMELY flammable.  Leave rag outside so smell can evaporate before U puting in trash, or save for next pcb run if enough area is still clean.  Use 220 grit sand paper to shine up coppper before soldering.  Happy etching!!

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "skatefriday" <craigm543@...> wrote:
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> Still listed here
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>   http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=21&prodid=103
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> I think I'm going to call KleenStrip on Monday.
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> Is Methyl Ethyl Ketone Peroxide the reason it's
> being phased out or is it the inhalation effects.
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> My reasearch seems to indicate that Xylene is 
> much worse healthwise and it is apparently still available
> in the form of Goofoff which I still see on the
> shelves.  Go figure.
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> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@> wrote:
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> > Search for butanone on ebay.com, 4 listings returned.
> > Banned because it's good for making bombs?
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> > It's used as PVC pipe cement in the UK
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> > I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
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> > --- On Sun, 1/30/11, skatefriday <craigm543@> wrote:
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> > From: skatefriday <craigm543@>
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] MEK no longer for sale in California? (was: Re: Problem removing toner)
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 11:25 PM
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> > I went in search of some MEK today as acetone
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> > to the Samsung toner is pretty much about as
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> > Home Depot, Lowes, and Orchard Supply Hardware 
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> > all no longer carry MEK.  Orchard Supply still
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> > has the shelf tags, but HD and Lowe's have removed
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> > I'm in California.  Has the stuff been banned here?
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> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Bray <rbray89@> wrote:
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> > > Goofoff is a "household" cleaner to remove gunk, residues, etc... but one of
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> > > the ingredients is Xylene, and it happens to be an amazing solvent for
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> > > removing Toner. Look for it in the solvent or cleaning section of Home
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> > > > I use a cleaner called Print Knot by GC that cuts it right off.
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> > > > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
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> > > > Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>]
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> > > > On Behalf Of skatefriday
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> > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:58 PM
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> > > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Problem removing toner
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> > > > I have a Samsung copier I'm using for PCB
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> > > > toner transfers and the toner seems to adhere
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> > > > very. very well to the copper.
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> > > > Using lacquer thinner I have to scrub vigorously
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> > > > for what seems like forever with a toothbrush to
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> > > > get it off. And the fumes from that stuff are
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> > > > toner? Is this an artifact of the Samsung toner?
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> > > > I've seen youtube videos of people wiping toner off
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> > > > That doesn't work at all for my boards.
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