Either ammonium persulfate or sodium persulfate is used by commercial pcb manufacturers. They do not use ferric chloride, not for decades. Only hobbyists use the stuff. I'm using a peroxide-muriatic acid-sodium chloride etchant. It's very cheap, and the chemicals are available either in a drug store or at places such as Home Depot (for the acid). I use it "one-shot." I use just enough to do the board I'm etching and then toss it away. It's that cheap. This way, It works the same way--etch times, etc.--every time I use it. 73, Todd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ K7TFC / Medford, Oregon, USA / CN82ni / UTC-8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ QRP (CW & SSB) / EmComm / SOTA / Homebrew / Design On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:12 PM, tda7000 <Tda7000@...> wrote: > ** > > > > > I have used the toner transfer method with the laminator described here: > http://ultrakeet.com.au/write-ups/superfuser > > I have not used Press-n-peel blue, just magazine paper. However I have not > had undercutting (that I ever noticed!). I used old Ferric Chloride and > later on the Hydrochloric acid and Hydrogen Peroxide mixture. Both worked > great. > > http://ultrakeet.com.au/write-ups/etchantComparison he describes Ammonium > Persulphate as being much worse than Ferric Chloride. I have never used > Ammonium Persulphate. > > I don't know if it's any different to Sodium Persulphate in terms of > undercutting, but if his article has any truth behind it I would probably > try something else. > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "phil.quinton@..." wrote: > > > > Hi, > > First post, hopefully one of many.. > > To cut a long > > story short, I'm having problems *after* etching with Sodium > > Persulphate > > > > In short, it appears to be etching *under* the > > toner somehow. > > My guess is that the etch tank is no > > longer getting to the right temperature ( ~ 45 degrees ) and I'm etching > > too long with the agitator on. I'm going to get myself a temperature > > probe to confirm. > > Has anyone had a similar experience ( Etch > > looking fine until the toner is removed )? > > Thanks in > > advance, > Phil. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Etching woes: Press-n-Peel, Laminator, Etch Tank + Sodium Persulphate
2013-02-20 by Todd F. Carney
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