My etchant is two parts by volume of 3% H2O2 and 1 part 35% "muriatic" (hydrochloric) acid. The peroxide is just the drug store/supermarket stuff. The acid is from Home Depot. It's sold for concrete cleaning/prep. This etchant works pretty fast and I don't think I'd ever need stronger peroxide. The 3% I buy is about $1.50 a quart. The acid's about $10 a gallon. 73, Todd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ K7TFC / Medford, Oregon, USA / CN82ni / UTC-8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ QRP (CW & SSB) / EmComm / SOTA / Homebrew / Design On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Peter Harrison <peter.harrison@... > wrote: > ** > > > Oops! > > 60vol would be 18% > > > On 12 Mar 2013, at 23:34, Peter Harrison wrote: > > > Actually, Hydrogen Peroxide in strengths of 30% and upwards is > potentially very unpleasant and becomes increasingly dangerous if not > handled and stored correctly. > > > > Note, this is 30% by weight. It may also be described as 100vol. That > means it will release 100 times its liquid volume of pure oxygen. > > > > Read this: > > > > http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924299 > > > > and this: > > > > http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1246260031375 > > > > and be sure you are completely clear whether the strength of the H2O2 > you have is, say, 20vol or 20%. The stuff used in hair bleach is going to > be about 3% which is 10vol. I am reasonably sure that the strongest you are > likely to find in a hairdressing wholesaler will be about 20% (60vol). It > is sold for dilution by the salon before use. > > > > Peter Harrison > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Mar 2013, at 18:33, Eddie Stassen wrote: > > > >> Being safety concious is always good, but ffs you are not going to > require > >> amputation from a drop of peroxide on your finger. Whitened skin, some > >> stinging or in extreme cases some blistering perhaps > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:51 PM, smilingcat90254 > >> <smilingcat@...>wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> First of all, distilling hydrogen peroxide from pharmacy grade 3% > VOLUME > >>> peroxide is relatively easy. I posted it some time ago and some one > >>> recently said it as well. It's by freezing and throwing away the ice > that > >>> forms. > >>> > >>> **** safety **** > >>> You need to be extremely careful in handling this concentrated stuff. > You > >>> can only reach about 40 some odd percent concentration by freezing. > Still, > >>> its "dangerous". I've accidentally had few droplets hit my finger (Yes > I > >>> should have been wearing my chemical gloves but I wasn't) and the skin > >>> where the droplet hit, the skin immediately turned white, chemical > burn. > >>> Then the liquid penetrated into the dermis, layer of skin where there > are > >>> blood vessels and nerves. And the painful stinging sensation from the > >>> peroxide burn was really intense. It was good that I had the > sensation. Had > >>> it stopped, then it would have meant that my finger would have to been > >>> amputated... > >>> > >>> ****Another safety aspect of handling peroxide**** > >>> DO NOT EXPOSE TO UV OR EVEN BLUISH LIGHT (florescent light, sunlight > is a > >>> big NO NO). > >>> > >>> DO NOT LET IT COME IN CONTACT WITH ANY METAL ESPECIALLY IRON BASED > >>> MATERIAL. This includes all stainless steel. Iron act as a catalyst to > >>> decompose peroxide into oxygen and water. > >>> > >>> Store in clean dark brown bottle but it should not be so airtight > >>> that it can build up pressure. Countless number of explosions have > >>> happened because of this most famous is the accidental sinking of > Russian > >>> super sub the Kursk. > >>> > >>> **** Side note **** > >>> do not confuse volume concentration such as 3% vol H2O2 with 3% H2O2. > big > >>> difference. You can not get 90% H2O2 nor can you make it at home > unless you > >>> know lot about chemistry and have the right equipment. > >>> > >>> Concentrating H2O2 by freezing is more than plenty good for your > etching > >>> need!! Don't make it any more dangerous than need to be. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and > Photos: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and > Photos: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Peter Harrison > peter.harrison@... > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] regarding hydrogen peroxide.
2013-03-13 by Todd F. Carney / K7TFC
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