THANK YOU for the verbose explanation. I bought the cheap photo-resist but had not done any experimentation with it yet. On 03/02/2017 01:28 AM, Larry Battraw lbattraw@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I've experimented widely in search of materials that could act as > photo-imaged resist for PCBs and it has not been terribly successful. > You end up with a lot of problems, such as having the UV resin flow > over time while being exposed (Particularly if your PCB is mounted on > a X-Y table and undergoes a fair amount of acceleration), potentially > obscuring or providing insufficient coverage for traces. --And > naturally since the resin is liquid you can't use a simple > transparency with artwork to cure it; as you indicated, a laser is > required, or potentially some sort of fancy lens assembly to focus an > image of your artwork with high brightness/contrast from a DLP > projector (Similar to what a SLA 3D printer would use), or even a > scheme similar to an old-school photo plotter that "draws" the traces > with a particular shape focused through a lens onto the board. It's > all a hassle and the complications can consume a lot of time. > > I've eventually come to the conclusion that the cheap and > easily-obtainable negative brush-on photo-resist from China ($9 > including shipping to the US for 100g of concentrated resist that > provides 300g when properly diluted, which is a ton of photoresist!) > is the way to go. I use an Epson inkjet with cheap and easy > refillable carts to print onto a transparency, allowing me to create a > lot of copies of the board with a single transparency (Unlike the > direct-printing process with laser toner that is strictly1:1). > I will add a side-note that many Epson printers don't seem to be able > to use transparencies as-is since they rely on a light sensor to > detect the paper, which naturally makes the printer think it is out of > paper when using a transparency. I use a couple pieces of > double-sided tape at the top of the page to stick a normal piece of > paper to the transparency, which works just fine as long you know > where to put the tape (Since it can cause it to feed incorrectly with > tape in the wrong positions). > > It's amazing what good results you can get from this cheap > photo-resist, it can look pretty awful after painting on the resist > but after drying it you can get results that are very close or even > better in some cases than thin-film laminated resist sheets. I've > gotten the best results from using a little plastic spray bottle and > some solvent to dilute the resist, spraying it on like you would with > a can of aerosol spray paint (i.e. beginning to spray before you reach > the board, avoiding excessive paint application); you want avoid > drips. You prop the board up and go back and forth, moving up/down > slowly after each pass to make sure each layer overlaps, without > enough to actually drip. About 20 minutes in the oven at roughly > 150C/65C will cure the resist. > > I've used the thin-film resist (Doing the laminating myself since it's > so much cheaper, especially when you goof things up as much as I do) > for many years but it definitely isn't an easy or > guaranteed-successful method; part of the problem is that it ages and > from what I've heard from the manufacturer it only has a shelf life of > around 9 months to a year, though I think that can be extended by > keeping it cold in the refrigerator. This produces an effect where > the contrast gets worse and worse and you end up struggling to get a > good result since it gets much more difficult to expose it properly > and still be able to rinse off unexposed resist without affecting the > exposed sections. Extremely frustrating! It also doesn't tend to > stick to the PCB as well, becoming somewhat brittle and inclined to > flake off on thinner traces. > > I think the main advantage the cheap, Chinese liquid, brush-on > photo-resist has is related to how "fresh" it is, since I've never > seen much of a difference from it ageing. It always provides extremely > sharp results (Even when the brush strokes on the board from applying > the resist are not great). Another major advantage is that it will > adhere very strongly to virtually any PCB surface, even if it's > oxidized or scratched, etc. This is in terrible contrast (ha ha) to > dry-film resist which is very temperamental about sticking to > less-than-perfect PCB surfaces, and this gets worse and worse as it > ages. Applying dry-film resist in a hobbyist environment is somewhat > of a dark art since it's designed to be applied in large, commercial > laminators that are very good about applying a precise amount of heat > and uniform pressure to a virtually perfect PCB surface, something > that can be very difficult to do at home. Search around for DIY > dry-film photoresist lamination and you'll find a large number of > opinions on how to do it, ranging from modified budget laminators (Or > expensive, semi-pro models) to "wet process" methods that involve > spraying the board down and even forgoing heat. > > Anyway, this has gotten a lot longer than I intended but the short > answer is don't waste your money on UV resins. Using a laser to > expose dry-film or the cheap brush-on resist is probably the best way > to go if you want to avoid printing out transparencies to image your > boards. The brush-on resist is also going to be far cheaper than any > UV resins, as well as being easy to apply and develop/etch. > Search 301857576850 on eBay for an example of the brush-on resist, I'm > not affiliate with any of these products and this is just my opinion. > > HTH- > Larry >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: uv resin for a photoresist substitute
2017-03-02 by Rob
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