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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Salt/Vinegar/Peroxide

2017-07-17 by Norm

I'm not a chemist - (College Chem101 in 1958).\ufffd That's why I referenced the article - I'll see if I can find it again - might even be in the files in this group.\ufffd

As I understand it, the etching is a conversion of metallic copper to copper chloride, which is soluble.\ufffd Therefore, the free chlorine ion is required.\ufffd I don't think the chlorine in the HCl is free to combine.\ufffd The formation of the copper chloride is what turns the solution blue-green (also why ferrous chloride turns greenish as it is used).

Anyway, the HCl + H2O2 works for me, it's cheap, and just about inexhaustible (Bubble air through it\ufffd - converts the CuCL to CuO (or some such) and releases the Cl ions for re-use.\ufffd Adding the small amounts of H2O2 would also add the needed oxygen to regenerate the solution without the bubbles.

Again, not a chemist, but this is what I've read/experienced.

Norm



On 7/17/2017 11:14 AM, 'Brad' unclefalter@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
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Thanks Norm.

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Yeah, I\ufffdm just reluctant about using actual HCl for the reasons you mentioned.\ufffd I\ufffdm generally pretty careful but I\ufffdm also a bit accident prone and I don\ufffdt want to wreck something, or myself, messing around with that kind of acid.\ufffd I\ufffdve accidentally splashed this vinegar/salt/peroxide solution on me and not even slight irritation.\ufffd I\ufffdm sure that wouldn\ufffdt be the case with HCl.

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What I\ufffdm curious about though is that supposedly the reaction will still work *without* salt.. just takes longer?

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