pro photo systems use laser plotters with 24,000 dpi., and film you need a darkroom for. most ink based systems that I have seen are for SMD, reflow process. I do not believe that silver conductive ink will be the future of pro etch resist, simply do to the cost of silver. IMO, Plating Etch resist is the 100% reliable method, with photoresist only acting like a plate resist, the plate then becomes the etch resist. More expensive than plain Photo etch, and WAY more expensive than TT, my total Plating (copper/tin)setup was about $500 with the capacity for 6" X6" dual sided boards((2.5Gallons), and 100ft roll of photomask. - I still prefer TT for single sided - non commercial - boards.. just for the quickness, cheapness and simplicity. I'm following the Thinktink.com GreenCirc process, but I bought my plating equip from Caswellplating.com If you think Acetone is bad, I use 98.08% pure sulfuric acid and 50% hydrogen peroxide. Gloves, goggles, ventilation, and patience -- all is well. JT ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikezcnc" <eemikez@...> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Another TT idea > I tried this using a pizza stone for higher energy accumulation. > Nada. There is something in the 'massaging' and that something being > a mix of temp and force pers iron's surface. I still believe that TT > is a great method for something simple, wide and small. To have real > quality one following choices: > > 1. Inkjet w/conductive ink. SOBs already make that ink but I found > out that they are making machines that go with it. This will be the > future of PCB mfr-ing. > 2. I won't even mention isolation milling with CNC machines (sorry > Dave...) because of dust and freaking noise. > 3. Laser--- I read with interest couple of posts on the subject... if > that works out then it is a great technology. > 4. And the winner is: PHOTO. There is no substitute for a UV > exposure. But to have a quality product one needs an extensive > hardware setup. > > I saw today a machine that is used to print images on CD/DVDs. Cost > was more than 100k and when asked about my cost to order a volume, > teh answer was: er...60cents per disk. Regretfully they cannot print > larger than disk. > > 5. I've seen a laser etching in action and have to admit that it is > an awsome technology. But... the laser cost around 100k, all the > safety precautions but quality was stunning. > > so many words for today. Back to my project perfecting the photo > imaging. > > Mike > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Toft <toftat@c...> > wrote: > > I just had an idea, how about instead of the cloths iron use a > couple of > > fairly thick (0.25-0.5) steel plates, and put it on the stove top. > With > > the paper and board sandwiched to provide the pressure, this could > be > > set up as you want it, then 'cooked'. After a little > experimentation you > > could accurately see how much pressure is needed (by varying the > weight > > of the top plate) I think it would eliminate a lot of the guess work > > inherent with the iron. > > > > Would this work? > > -- > > Anthony Toft <toftat@c...> > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Another TT idea
2004-03-02 by Jeremy Taylor
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