Yahoo Groups archive

Homebrew PCBs

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:05 UTC

Message

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Electrolytic regeneration of CuCl

2004-04-22 by Adam Seychell

Stefan Trethan wrote:
> Did some experimenting...
> 
> I have now etched away the copper of both welding rods, which nicely
> saturated my etchant too...
> 
> 1 rod is 8mm * 22cm i think which is 55 square cm.
> i connected both rods together to get ~~100 square centimeters.
> 
> 
> for the other electrode i used a copper wire, diameter about 4mm and 
> length 10cm.
> which is 12,5cm square.
> 
> i can only prevent chlorine gas by currents well below 0,5A (you know it 
> is hard to tell when
> there is really no gas).
> 
> - that would be 5mA / square cm at the carbon then.

Excellent work, you now have a starting figure for the current density of 
graphite anodes. In practice you may need less current density to keep long 
life of the anode.

> However i think the area of the copper wire is too big, i can not get 
> hydrogen at all, even
> if there is severe chlorine. so i assumed it is too big and now i use a 
> 1.5mm^2 wire immersed
> only 2 centimeters. now i get hydrogen before i get chlorine.

Can I ask why are you trying to produce hydrogen gas at all ?
Are you saying that no visible signs of copper are plated without also 
producing hydrogen gas at the cathode ? If this is the case then you must 
have very little copper dissolved in the solution, such it would almost 
look very pale clear green.


> The copper plates like a sponge, and it is kind of hard to get it out 
> without
> shaking it all off again (and loosing it in the etchant).

that's correct. When metal and gas co-deposit you get metal sponge.

> 
> I have also another question about chlorine, what are those tablets made 
> of for the swimming pool?

calcium hypochlorite. This may regenerate CuCl2 etchant but I'm not sure 
the effect of byproduct, calcium chloride. It may not make a truly reusable 
etchant. commercially, they sometimes use sodium chlorate, which is similar 
except it is a more powerful oxidant, (more economical), and the byproduct 
is sodium chloride.

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.