Homebrew PCBs

Dave,

IMO you're way off the mark here... (And Steve has said so before. 
There is nothing wrong--according to Steve, who OWNS the list--with 
discussing ALL aspects of making "homebrew pcb's", INCLUDING making 
cnc pcb drills and mills.  You were told this a few months ago, and 
Steve even said he was surprised--and a bit disappointed--that you 
felt the need to start new group due to YOUR interpretation of THIS 
groups parameters... We talk about converting printer fusers into 
laminators and inkjets into resist printers?!? Why NOT discuss 
computerised homebrew pcb machines? 

(BTW, If you want to see the results of over-moderation of topics on 
a group, just look at the monthly postings "numbers" at the formerly 
bustling CAD CAM EDM DRO yahoo group...)

HAVING SAID all that, I am NOT "discussing" how to build a cnc 
mill/drill/ (except to answer others questions; as in my recent how 
to use a Sherline mill more effectively for Pcb's) 

I AM offering one as a COMPLETE kit. Including power 
supply/interface, drives, motors, mechanicals AND software. At half 
price to members of this list only (initially)

Ballendo

>"Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@y...> wrote:
>Here is where I disagree.
> 
> THIS hobby is MAKING PCB's, and NOT making machines that make PCB's.
> 
> TurboCNC, Xylotex, Gecko's  ??? I would venture to say that 95% of 
> the people on this list don't have a clue to any of those three 
> products and will never need to.
> 
> They are squarely in MACHINE BUILDING and have nothing to do with 
> making PCB's.
> 
> There are multiple machin building and design lists and although it 
> is an interesting topic for many of us, does not make it a 
mainstream 
> topic for this list.
> 
> John's and Ballendo's machines are dead center for making PCB's and 
I 
> am sure are more than welcome here.  People selling supplies would 
be 
> just as welcome.  I think there is a guy who sells sensitized 
boards, 
> but he rarely posts about them on here. (if he is lurking, send me 
an 
> e-mail off list)
> 
> Any talk about the tools that make boards are dead center for this 
> list, but talk about the parts that make the parts that are part of 
> the thing that makes boards is a little far removed.  And to that 
> end, My point is that on a machnine tool list, you will have 
> mechanical engineers with years of experiance in building machines 
> and who may never have made a PCB.  and on this list I think we 
have 
> Electrical engineers who have years of experiance designing and 
> making PCB's, but have never made a machine to make a pcb.
> 
> I think allowance is made to post the totally commercial venture as 
> it does pertain to the list and he is a member and all that.
> 
> I do agree with Stefan that most of us should have sent a privite 
> post to Ballendo and not one to the list.  Making transactions for 
> sales in not proper for the list.
> 
> Dave