Homebrew PCBs

James,
      If the toner flows in order to fill voids than it will flow
where you don't want it. No matter what I say won't matter anyway if
he gets it to work right? I have proved dozens of people wrong. Maybe
I am wrong. Maybe he does not need the high voltage. From a practical
standpoint how many people are going to be able to use his method? It
is only my opinion. I can be wrong! I though I would make alot of
money selling plans. I only make enough money to pay my bills. So you
see I can be wrong. 

                                               John  


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "James Newton"
<jamesmichaelnewton@y...> wrote:
> 
> Look at the pictures he uploaded. It worked. No pinholes. My bet is 
> that even if all the toner doesn't transfer to the PCB, the fact 
> that it is being melted to the board without paper in contact with 
> the toner means that the toner will "reflow" or fill in where it 
> didn't transfer.
> 
> I didn't insult you. You insulted him by implying that he didn't 
> understand how a copier works. Man that pisses me off. How many 
> great ideas have we lost because some... person... spouted out a put 
> down and killed it? I wanted to say a lot more, but all I did was 
> call a snide remark a snide remark and pointed to your page where 
> you railed against people saying the same things about your ideas.
> 
> The proof is, as you say, in the pudding. Look at the pictures. And 
> before you go saying something won't work, why don't you TRY IT and 
> put aside YOUR wishfull thinking? 
> 
> James.
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@k...> wrote:
> > 
> > James,
> >        Some of the toner will stick to the paper and he will get an
> > image that will have pinholes. Wishful thinking won't make it 
> work. It
> > will all come down to science. You can insult me all you want. It
> > won't change the results. It will go the way of the inkjet filled 
> with
> > floorwax.
> > 
> >                                          John
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "James Newton"
> > <jamesmichaelnewton@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't see how your comment has anything to do with Mikes idea.
> > > 
> > > Yes, the toner and the paper are charged the same. So what? They 
> > > have been loosing their charge since they came out of the 
> printer 
> > > (static dissapates) and now have little or no charge relative to 
> the 
> > > environment around them as well as no charge relative to each 
> other.
> > > 
> > > The point is that he has charged the blank PCB now. Some or most 
> of 
> > > the Toner will then jump up to the blank. As long as he flips 
> the 
> > > blank over before the charge dissapates, that toner is going to 
> stay 
> > > on the board.
> > > 
> > > Now, he takes the blank, with the un-fused toner on it, at sets 
> it 
> > > in a hotplate. At this point, the toner melts onto the blank. 
> There 
> > > is no paper to remove, the toner isn't going to come off and we 
> are 
> > > ready to etch.
> > > 
> > > I think its brilliant. Any other snide remarks you want to make? 
> or 
> > > are you just repeating what you learned from others as 
> documented at:
> > > http://www.crankorgan.com/whodabitchnow.htm
> > > 
> > > James.
> > >