Quite true!! I could not get the transparants well: grey-ish, striping, etc. I found and read this post and it's now ok. Simply set my Epson Stylus 740 to "Glossy Photopaper" and "Color", printed on a deskjet transparant. It takes a while but it's perfect, much more black than a laserprinter. Great advise, thanks! Regards, Dirk --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, mpdickens <md30022@y...> wrote: > A member of another mailing list I am a member of > found the following in a archive. Further, he tested > and it worked as advertised: > > I have been dealing with a development effort for a > circuit that my company is developing. In order to get > fast turnaround of boards for testing, I needed a way > to make high quality circuit boards (multilayer) in > under 8 hours. Cost from commercial board houses for > 24 hour turnaround was in the range of $2000-$3000 per > design. In my case, I had to also develope plating > systems and through-hole activation, fast etching, and > a hot 20 ton press which I built by converting a shop > press from harbor freight and adding a temperature > controller and heating elements. etc. > > For ATM purposes, 2 sided boards can be made for a > minimal expense. > > Because many on this list make their own circuit > boards on occassion (for stepper circuits and camera > circuits), I thought I would share my experience > with the group. > > I am currently producing 4, 6 and 8 layer circuit > boards using equipment now in my basement. Granted my > basement looks like a chamber of horrors, but I > suspect this is true for many on this list. Eight mil > traces and lands are now easily doable and I am > holding +/- 2 mil registration. > > The greatest roadblock to producing good circuit > boards was getting good artwork on a transparency. In > that regard, I have made several discoveries which are > not immediately intuitive. > > First, getting really good artwork for the spec above > is not possible with a laser printer. Phase error > creeps in and even for printers claiming 1200 > DPI the accuracy just isn't there. I tested this with > several models of HP printers including the 2000 > series and the 4000 series. > > In addition, the toner is just not dark enough. You > end up having to underexpose the photoresist in order > to get good removal and then you have a problem with > undercured photoresist that will not tent over holes > and whose sides are weak. Further the developing > process just trashes the underexposed resist. > > I finally decided to try an inkjet printer. After > some research looking for a printer that supported > high resolution in black, I purchased a Canon. > Initially, I purchased the S300 but it turned out that > clever marketing made is sound like it supported high > res black. In reality, the black was only 600 DPI > like every other printer... Not enough resolution. I > then tried the S800, which did support 2400 x 1200 DPI > in color and in Black - the only printer that > supported high resolution black printing. Experiments > with > this printer unfortunately revealed the problem that > most people have with bubble jets. The black is > simply not dark enough in UV. This despite the fact > that it was a pigment based ink. > > I did have moderate success stacking tranparenies. > This allowed me to increase the exposure time, but > because only the first transparency was ink down (the > second had to have a full 5 mil separation for the > thickness of the first transparency, the edges were > not very clean. > > I then had a brainstorm, I realized that my UV filters > for my flourescent lighting were amber. I decided to > try other colors... I quickly discovered that yellow > was just as dark (in UV) as black. Disappointed that > it was not darker, I began thinking about ways I could > change the formulation of the ink to include a > coreactive UV blocking chemical. I started searching > the net when I discovered that ink fading as a result > of UV is a real problem for photography. To my > surprise, my printer already contained an ink that > was UV blocking. All I had to do was tell the printer > that it was printing on high resolution photopaper. > This automatically switched cartridges to the PC > (Photo Cyan) and PM (Photomagenta). Yellow remains the > same because yellow only fades to yellow. > > In any case, once I did that, I was able to fully > expose the Photoresist. In comparing a foil blocked > section and a photo ink exposed section there > was little difference. Moreover, in testing artwork > created by a real photoplotter (costing $200,000). > There was no difference. The only difference was that > I settled on "GREEN" as being the color that was best. > This selected the darkness of yellow in UV and the > chemical UV blocking in Photo Cyan to produce a very > dark black in UV and a pretty green in visible... :-) > > Perfect exposures! That along with unbelievable > resolution of these printers make for a killer > combination for producing your own artwork and > consequently your own circuit boards. > > The bottom line is this. You DON'T want a printer with > a dark black! Forget whether it is pigment based ink > or dye based ink. That is all irrelavent, none of them > are going to be dark enough. > > You want a PHOTO printer with PHOTO ink. Further ALL > photoprinters have high resolution in color! Even the > cheap ones ($100)! Just make sure a photo ink is > available either from the manufacturer or for an ink > refiller. All photo ink is, is ink with UV blocking > added so the photos you print don't fade. > > What will the photoplotter companies do??? > > Armed with this information, there is no reason > everyone on this list does not do steves killer mod > for the Philips Vesta camera or the many circuits > for telescope motorization and tracking. > > > Best > > Marvin Dickens > Alpharetta, Georgia > > ===== > Registered Linux User No. 80253 > If you use linux, get counted at: > http://www.linuxcounter.org > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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Re: Injet printers, transparencies and UV light...
2005-02-03 by Dirk F Ganzinga
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