> I love it! It's great seeing people from around the world use different > techniques and material to achieve the same goal. I nearly fell off my > chair with the pic of the PCB hanging under the neon lamp. :D > It's just a 40W fluorescent lamp, just a cheap light for the storage area (that's a wooden platform which divides the 4 meter ceiling into two 2-meter spaces). I'm going to make an insolation bed, A4 size (it's the maximum size my printer can print anyway), with a thick glass, 6mm maybe, to press the transparency to the sens. board to elliminate the air in the middle, which makes pictures fuzzy. > I love your lab, it makes me realize just how badly I have to clean up my > workspace. Ugh... Actually my dad's lab, this is a TV repair shop actually. And I cleaned up a little for the pictures ;) > > Have you considered using a spray bottle to apply the photo-purple-liquid? > Yes but I doubt it would work, the liquid is very viscous. I forgot to take a picture of it!. > I would guess that US and Canada might not have access to all those > materials. Laws on cancerigenic (sp), toxic, radioactive :D material are > a bit severe here. I wonder if equivalent materials could be acquired from > photodevelopment sources and such? I heard of a product from Kodak that > worked wonders, but I can never remember the name. I don't think so, I heard you can get this kind of products in Spain, and they have more severe laws for that in Europe. Anyway you could try with Diazo-based inks, which are environmental-friendly. You should go to a print shop, some place where they make small quantities of T-Shirts with screen printing, they will most likely use this kind of products. > > I'm intrigued by your problem with even distribution of that > photo-purple-liquid. At first I thought of a centrifuge like the folks in > the Yahoo Casting group use to spin casts, but that would be messy and > probably excessive force. You just want to make sure that your liquid flows > evenly across the PCB. > Yes, I read something about that, and it sounds very interesting. The problem is to get a perfectly centered wheel to spin it at high-rev and some way to attach the board to it. CD's are manufactured that way. Of course, CDs are round and have a hole in the center which makes things a lot easier :D > Have you thought of a small press? Sandwiching another layer over the PCB, > forcing the liquid flat. Place a thin spacer and you have a controlled > 'area' to pour in your liquid. The same way as we make foundations for > houses over here, a vertical mold, except your would be less than 1mm wide. > > If your liquid is sticky, maybe you can use wax paper in your mold, or cut > out a panel from a teflon frying pan. Wax paper will most likely make 'wave > patterns', a hard surface like teflow is better. I think that would be something interesting to try. But the liquid is W-A-Y sticky (it sticks to glass). The teflon pan would be interesting but it would have to be some cast-aluminum pan, to make sure it's flat and stays that way. Problem with cast aluminum and real teflon is price :) But as I say the liquid is viscous and takes a few hours to dry, so the paint brush method is the best I could find so far. I'll ask the manufacturer about what can be done. Maybe I'll be able to dissolve the thick liquid, in order to get a thinner layer. > > Very nice results considering how you went about to get them. > Actually no, I severely blew that board. I also found out that my transparency was bent a little and that caused a small out-of-focus area. But the other picture I uploaded show a properly made board. > Robert > :) > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] De > la part de hjf2k2 > Envoyé : juillet 24 2005 17:18 > À : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com > Objet : [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Experimental method > > > Hey everyone. I posted the pictures as promised. Here they are: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/files/PhotoEtching/ > > It's a RAR file with the pictures. Sadly the board came out seriously bad, > as it seems that I "underdeveloped" it, that is, didn't clean it out > properly :(, but you can see that even in that case there are pretty good > results. > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > If Files or Photos are running short of space, post them here: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/ > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Experimental method
2005-07-25 by hjf2k2
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