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pizzazz pizza oven

2010-03-12 by Henry Liu

Has anyone tried a Presto Pizza Maker for reflowing:
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-03430-Pizzazz-Pizza-Oven/dp/B00005IBXJ

It seems like a good possibility for something would work for pcbs.

My serious gripe has always been the preheat time and cool down time.
Commercial ovens use infrared which is a lot more efficient than
waiting for coils to heat up in an oven.  The presto unit claims no
preheat.

I think this pizza maker thing has a good chance at working out
because I really like the top open view.  You can just see when the
solder has reflowed and stop the motion.

Walmart sells them for $45 so I bought one and will try it out.  If it
doesn't work out, easy returns.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pizzazz pizza oven

2010-03-12 by Stefan Trethan

Will the pizza even get warm in this thing? Most of it is outside most
of the time! Seems terribly inefficient.
It does say "From freezer to perfect in minutes." so maybe this is not
designed to actually bake a real pizza, just warm a frozen ready-made
one.

The wedge shape could be a problem for SMD. It would be easier to dial
in a linear heated zone.
Generating IR is not a problem, just buy some of the old style
infrared heaters like this:
<http://www.quartzheater.co.uk/quartz-heaters-details/devil155-infrared-heater-big.jpg>

Some of the small ovens actually use this kind of quartz tube, others
use metal tubed heaters.

ST
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...> wrote:
> Has anyone tried a Presto Pizza Maker for reflowing:
> http://www.amazon.com/Presto-03430-Pizzazz-Pizza-Oven/dp/B00005IBXJ
>
> It seems like a good possibility for something would work for pcbs.
>
> My serious gripe has always been the preheat time and cool down time.
> Commercial ovens use infrared which is a lot more efficient than
> waiting for coils to heat up in an oven.  The presto unit claims no
> preheat.
>
> I think this pizza maker thing has a good chance at working out
> because I really like the top open view.  You can just see when the
> solder has reflowed and stop the motion.
>
> Walmart sells them for $45 so I bought one and will try it out.  If it
> doesn't work out, easy returns.
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pizzazz pizza oven

2010-03-12 by Henry Liu

I'll find out when I get the pizzaz.

There are over 300 positive reviews on amazon so it has to bake pretty well.
 There were some complaints that it didn't make the edge crisp but it's 12"
diameter so the center so be plenty for most PCBs.

Pizza usually bakes 425F=218C for 15 mins so this unit should be able to
bake most SMD.  Both the bottom and the top heat the pizza and you can turn
off either the bottom or the top.  The unit uses 1250W so that's quite a bit
of heat.

Rotation keeps the element heating even I guess but I agree in that I don't
see how the temperature stays constant.

$45 is pretty cheap and would be the perfect tool if it works.

Because the top is open, I can hit it with extra hot air from my air gun on
problem areas even in rotation.

I don't think I will be able to push parts around while it is rotating but
you never know that might work too.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>wrote:

>
>
> Will the pizza even get warm in this thing? Most of it is outside most
> of the time! Seems terribly inefficient.
> It does say "From freezer to perfect in minutes." so maybe this is not
> designed to actually bake a real pizza, just warm a frozen ready-made
> one.
>
> The wedge shape could be a problem for SMD. It would be easier to dial
> in a linear heated zone.
> Generating IR is not a problem, just buy some of the old style
> infrared heaters like this:
> <
> http://www.quartzheater.co.uk/quartz-heaters-details/devil155-infrared-heater-big.jpg
> >
>
> Some of the small ovens actually use this kind of quartz tube, others
> use metal tubed heaters.
>
> ST
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...<henryjliu%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Has anyone tried a Presto Pizza Maker for reflowing:
> > http://www.amazon.com/Presto-03430-Pizzazz-Pizza-Oven/dp/B00005IBXJ
> >
> > It seems like a good possibility for something would work for pcbs.
> >
> > My serious gripe has always been the preheat time and cool down time.
> > Commercial ovens use infrared which is a lot more efficient than
> > waiting for coils to heat up in an oven.  The presto unit claims no
> > preheat.
> >
> > I think this pizza maker thing has a good chance at working out
> > because I really like the top open view.  You can just see when the
> > solder has reflowed and stop the motion.
> >
> > Walmart sells them for $45 so I bought one and will try it out.  If it
> > doesn't work out, easy returns.
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] pizzazz pizza oven

2010-03-12 by Jim Barnes

Hi,

 

I have seen the warnings about not re-using toaster ovens for food after
using lead-based solder paste. Do you'all think  the Pizzazz Pizza Oven
can be safely used for pizza after doing a board?

 

Jim
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[mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Henry Liu
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:01 PM
To: homebrew_pcbs
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] pizzazz pizza oven

 

  

Has anyone tried a Presto Pizza Maker for reflowing:
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-03430-Pizzazz-Pizza-Oven/dp/B00005IBXJ

It seems like a good possibility for something would work for pcbs.

My serious gripe has always been the preheat time and cool down time.
Commercial ovens use infrared which is a lot more efficient than
waiting for coils to heat up in an oven. The presto unit claims no
preheat.

I think this pizza maker thing has a good chance at working out
because I really like the top open view. You can just see when the
solder has reflowed and stop the motion.

Walmart sells them for $45 so I bought one and will try it out. If it
doesn't work out, easy returns.





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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pizzazz pizza oven

2010-03-13 by lists

In article
<40B5325EDFC7D64F83DC128117C0AD2325AD71@...>,
   Jim Barnes <jim@...> wrote:
> I have seen the warnings about not re-using toaster ovens for food after
> using lead-based solder paste. Do you'all think  the Pizzazz Pizza Oven
> can be safely used for pizza after doing a board?

With Rohs should now be using lead free solder anyway :-)

-- 
Stuart
http://www.torrens.org.uk/ZFC/gallery/winsor.html

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