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pcb headers and sockets?

2004-08-01 by tomg@fullnet.com

If this is too far off-topic, let me know (and, if possible, point me 
to a more-appropriate group).

I am re-designing some pcbs, to make the equipment they're in easier 
to manufacture, and service or upgrade.

The pcbs currently have quite a few wires that are soldered directly 
to them, that go to front-panel controls (and to other pcbs).

The wires to all of the front-panel controls are also soldered 
directly to the solder lugs of the controls (switches, pots, etc).

To make manufacturing and service/maintenance/upgrading faster and 
easier, I think that ALL of the wire connections to the pcbs should 
use removable connectors, such as pin headers on the boards and crimp 
sockets on the wires.  Also, where desirable and logical, I think 
that sets of multiple individual wires should be replaced with ribbon 
cables, with appropriate headers and sockets.

To make this possible, I think that I will have to re-design the 
front panel controls, to use a pcb behind the front panel, changing 
all of the controls from solder-lug types to pcb-mount types. That 
way, I can use headers, sockets, ribbon cables, etc, to connect the 
existing pcbs to the front panel controls (via headers on the new 
front-panel-interface pcb).

Here's where I would like some help: 

I am not very familiar with the vast majority of the myriad different 
types of wire-to-board (and board-to-board) connector systems that 
are available. There seem to be *zillions* of different ones. And the 
catalogs, and even the manufacturers' websites, seem to assume that I 
already know how they're assembled and installed, etc. But THAT'S 
what I'm trying to find out, so I can decide which ones would be 
convenient and cost-effective to put into the design.

So: Does anybody have any "favorite" makes and models of wire-to-
board (or board-to-board) connectors? (They need to be able to handle 
at least 1.5 Amps and up to at least 15 V DC.  And they need to be 
easy and cheap to assemble.) Or any least favorites?

What I was also HOPING to find was someplace that sells ready-made 
ribbon-cable types of assemblies, in short lengths (4 to 6 inches), 
with versions having 2, 4, and 6 conductors, with connectors already 
installed on both ends. I have looked long and hard and can only find 
standard computer-type cables that are ready-made (i.e. either way 
too many conductors, or way too long).

Anybody?

Regards,

Tom Gootee

http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg

-----------------------------

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pcb headers and sockets?

2004-08-01 by Jeremy Taylor

I use AMP MTA connectors, But to do lots of them, you want either an air powered tool, or the pistol grip/head combo. The pieces themselves are economical.
I also use AMP flexstrip ribbons to connect a front panel, Available from 2 to 20 contacts in .1 or .05 spacing , but Mouser only lists up to 4 inches, (I only use 1) - that may not be long enough for you.  They also seem to be " luxury" priced for the convenience they offer It's cheaper to by 20's and split off the wires you need. 

Molex also offers bunches of solutions. 

www.mouser.com 
Search for AMP MTA and Molex K.K.


JT
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  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] pcb headers and sockets?


  If this is too far off-topic, let me know (and, if possible, point me 
  to a more-appropriate group).

  I am re-designing some pcbs, to make the equipment they're in easier 
  to manufacture, and service or upgrade.

  The pcbs currently have quite a few wires that are soldered directly 
  to them, that go to front-panel controls (and to other pcbs).

  The wires to all of the front-panel controls are also soldered 
  directly to the solder lugs of the controls (switches, pots, etc).

  To make manufacturing and service/maintenance/upgrading faster and 
  easier, I think that ALL of the wire connections to the pcbs should 
  use removable connectors, such as pin headers on the boards and crimp 
  sockets on the wires.  Also, where desirable and logical, I think 
  that sets of multiple individual wires should be replaced with ribbon 
  cables, with appropriate headers and sockets.

  To make this possible, I think that I will have to re-design the 
  front panel controls, to use a pcb behind the front panel, changing 
  all of the controls from solder-lug types to pcb-mount types. That 
  way, I can use headers, sockets, ribbon cables, etc, to connect the 
  existing pcbs to the front panel controls (via headers on the new 
  front-panel-interface pcb).

  Here's where I would like some help: 

  I am not very familiar with the vast majority of the myriad different 
  types of wire-to-board (and board-to-board) connector systems that 
  are available. There seem to be *zillions* of different ones. And the 
  catalogs, and even the manufacturers' websites, seem to assume that I 
  already know how they're assembled and installed, etc. But THAT'S 
  what I'm trying to find out, so I can decide which ones would be 
  convenient and cost-effective to put into the design.

  So: Does anybody have any "favorite" makes and models of wire-to-
  board (or board-to-board) connectors? (They need to be able to handle 
  at least 1.5 Amps and up to at least 15 V DC.  And they need to be 
  easy and cheap to assemble.) Or any least favorites?

  What I was also HOPING to find was someplace that sells ready-made 
  ribbon-cable types of assemblies, in short lengths (4 to 6 inches), 
  with versions having 2, 4, and 6 conductors, with connectors already 
  installed on both ends. I have looked long and hard and can only find 
  standard computer-type cables that are ready-made (i.e. either way 
  too many conductors, or way too long).

  Anybody?

  Regards,

  Tom Gootee

  http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg

  -----------------------------



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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pcb headers and sockets?

2004-08-01 by Stefan Trethan

You can go to electronics_101 buit IMO it is not too far off here.
Connectors...
1.5A as you require is already a lot, i'd suggest rethinking where
you need that much. For 1.5A screw terminals seem better than
the 0.64mm square pins, they are not designed for current.
There are scew terminals which come with a pin strip for the board, on 
which
they plug onto. (so you needn't undo the screws).
If you can get them "floppy" type connectors (the small 3.5" floppy type)
are also good. they carry 2.5A and have bigger pins than 0.64mm headers.
<http://www.elcomp.at/Sit-Grup/Gr10/10-05-04C-Floppy-LeiterplAnschl-PSL.htm>
see he also has cables (i assume no use to you as he is in Austria).

If you want to use the 0.64mm headers you can get either ribbon-cable
connectors or, especially for low pin numbers, there are plug housings
where separate crimp connectors fit in (you know them from the PC, like
the speaker, reset etc...). I have a hard time to find a source for these 
connectors.

ST
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 07:01:49 -0000, <tomg@...> wrote:

> If this is too far off-topic, let me know (and, if possible, point me
> to a more-appropriate group).
>
> I am re-designing some pcbs, to make the equipment they're in easier
> to manufacture, and service or upgrade.
>
> The pcbs currently have quite a few wires that are soldered directly
> to them, that go to front-panel controls (and to other pcbs).
>
> The wires to all of the front-panel controls are also soldered
> directly to the solder lugs of the controls (switches, pots, etc).
>
> To make manufacturing and service/maintenance/upgrading faster and
> easier, I think that ALL of the wire connections to the pcbs should
> use removable connectors, such as pin headers on the boards and crimp
> sockets on the wires.  Also, where desirable and logical, I think
> that sets of multiple individual wires should be replaced with ribbon
> cables, with appropriate headers and sockets.
>
> To make this possible, I think that I will have to re-design the
> front panel controls, to use a pcb behind the front panel, changing
> all of the controls from solder-lug types to pcb-mount types. That
> way, I can use headers, sockets, ribbon cables, etc, to connect the
> existing pcbs to the front panel controls (via headers on the new
> front-panel-interface pcb).
>
> Here's where I would like some help:
>
> I am not very familiar with the vast majority of the myriad different
> types of wire-to-board (and board-to-board) connector systems that
> are available. There seem to be *zillions* of different ones. And the
> catalogs, and even the manufacturers' websites, seem to assume that I
> already know how they're assembled and installed, etc. But THAT'S
> what I'm trying to find out, so I can decide which ones would be
> convenient and cost-effective to put into the design.
>
> So: Does anybody have any "favorite" makes and models of wire-to-
> board (or board-to-board) connectors? (They need to be able to handle
> at least 1.5 Amps and up to at least 15 V DC.  And they need to be
> easy and cheap to assemble.) Or any least favorites?
>
> What I was also HOPING to find was someplace that sells ready-made
> ribbon-cable types of assemblies, in short lengths (4 to 6 inches),
> with versions having 2, 4, and 6 conductors, with connectors already
> installed on both ends. I have looked long and hard and can only find
> standard computer-type cables that are ready-made (i.e. either way
> too many conductors, or way too long).
>
> Anybody?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom Gootee
>
> http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg
>
> -----------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] pcb headers and sockets?

2004-08-01 by Leon Heller

>
> So: Does anybody have any "favorite" makes and models of wire-to-
> board (or board-to-board) connectors? (They need to be able to handle
> at least 1.5 Amps and up to at least 15 V DC.  And they need to be
> easy and cheap to assemble.) Or any least favorites?

I use Molex 0.1" KK series connectors, they are cheap and very reliable. The
Molex crimp tool for the terminals is expensive, but alternatives are
available for under 20 GBP. They can be attached with pliers and then
soldered, but tend to break when the wire is flexed.

Leon

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