Homebrew PCBs

Phil,
  I generally agree with your point, but he gave a technique.  He has 
not given empirical
evidence whether it works or not, but I'm sure this technique has come 
up before on
either this list or Electronics 101.
  Just to p- everyone off, I think both of you were rude, but I'm not 
the moderator or
owner, so I won't tell you 'only one round of mud slinging each.'  But 
I'll let you infer it
from my last sentence, if you want. ;)
  If I could ever remember to take my HCl and H2O2 when I travel (by 
car, I don't think
the airlines or HLS would be up for it), I'll give the bag job a try, 
and let you all know
how it came out.  But since I've been on this list for at least five or 
six months, and this is
going to be my first etch, don't anyone hold their breath waiting for me.
Richard

>Message: 21        
>   Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:37:32 -0000
>   From: "Phil" <phil1960us@...>
>Subject: OT Re: hot glue gun glue
>
>I said "I think".  That makes it my opinion, not an immutable law 
>that I claim exists.  But I can certainly see how some one might read 
>it the way you did.  Do you disagree with the point?  
>
>Doesn't it seem reasonable that he follow his absolute pronouncements 
>with explanations? But he hasn't yet.  That's what i was (and still 
>am) objecting to. 
>  
>

Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the ziplock bag. I 
did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a real 
contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking about 
him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were responsive, 
well thought out and a positive contribution.\

The other person gave neither technique nor empirical data.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Richard Mustakos 
<rmustakos@a...> wrote:
> Phil,
>   I generally agree with your point, but he gave a technique.  He 
has 
> not given empirical
> evidence whether it works or not, but I'm sure this technique has 
come 
> up before on
> either this list or Electronics 101.
>   Just to p- everyone off, I think both of you were rude, but I'm 
not 
> the moderator or
> owner, so I won't tell you 'only one round of mud slinging each.'  
But 
> I'll let you infer it
> from my last sentence, if you want. ;)
>   If I could ever remember to take my HCl and H2O2 when I travel 
(by 
> car, I don't think
> the airlines or HLS would be up for it), I'll give the bag job a 
try, 
> and let you all know
> how it came out.  But since I've been on this list for at least 
five or 
> six months, and this is
> going to be my first etch, don't anyone hold their breath waiting 
for me.
> Richard
> 
> >Message: 21        
> >   Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:37:32 -0000
> >   From: "Phil" <phil1960us@y...>
> >Subject: OT Re: hot glue gun glue
> >
> >I said "I think".  That makes it my opinion, not an immutable law 
> >that I claim exists.  But I can certainly see how some one might 
read 
> >it the way you did.  Do you disagree with the point?  
> >
> >Doesn't it seem reasonable that he follow his absolute 
pronouncements 
> >with explanations? But he hasn't yet.  That's what i was (and 
still 

> >am) objecting to. 
> >  
> >

The name is "Ballendo", the inventor of a $500 CNC PCB mill. 
Mike 

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> wrote:
> Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
> postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the ziplock bag. 
I 

> did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a real 
> contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking about 
> him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were responsive, 
> well thought out and a positive contribution.\
> 
> The other person gave neither technique nor empirical data.
>

What is this, a full moon?

Steve

Phil,
Ahem, yes, well, than that's my fault, I thought Mike said 
the bit about the bag (Embarrassed smiley goes here)
Richard
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> wrote:

> Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
> postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the ziplock bag. I 
> did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a real 
> contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking about 
> him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were responsive, 
> well thought out and a positive contribution.\

Mike,

Remember, it's a 995 buck mill everywhere else, and after August<G>

Ballendo

P.S. Thank you Phil. BTW, BallenDRO isn't such a bad name for a CNC 
guy<G>

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...> wrote:
> The name is "Ballendo", the inventor of a $500 CNC PCB mill. 
> Mike 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> 
wrote:
> > Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
> > postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the ziplock 
bag. 
> I 
> > did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a 
real 
> > contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking 
about 

> > him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were responsive, 
> > well thought out and a positive contribution.\
> > 
> > The other person gave neither technique nor empirical data.
> >

Steve,

LOL. Full moon?

No, it's a "Bag job"<LOL>

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...> 
wrote:

> What is this, a full moon?
> 
> Steve

hangs head...   Truely sorry to mangle your name.  Thanks for not 
taking offense.


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo" <ballendo@y...> 
wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> Remember, it's a 995 buck mill everywhere else, and after August<G>
> 
> Ballendo
> 
> P.S. Thank you Phil. BTW, BallenDRO isn't such a bad name for a CNC 
> guy<G>
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...> 
wrote:
> > The name is "Ballendo", the inventor of a $500 CNC PCB mill. 
> > Mike 
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
> > > postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the ziplock 
> bag. 
> > I 
> > > did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a 
> real 
> > > contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking 
> about 
> > > him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were 
responsive, 

> > > well thought out and a positive contribution.\
> > > 
> > > The other person gave neither technique nor empirical data.
> > >

Phil,
 
No worries...

Typo's are abundant, and I knew who you meant<G>

Ballendo

P.S. So did everyone else<G>

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> wrote:
> hangs head...   Truely sorry to mangle your name.  Thanks for not 
> taking offense.
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "ballendo" <ballendo@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > 
> > Remember, it's a 995 buck mill everywhere else, and after 
August<G>
> > 
> > Ballendo
> > 
> > P.S. Thank you Phil. BTW, BallenDRO isn't such a bad name for a 
CNC 
> > guy<G>
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...> 
> wrote:
> > > The name is "Ballendo", the inventor of a $500 CNC PCB mill. 
> > > Mike 
> > > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <phil1960us@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Perhaps I *was* a bit bit rude but I was responding to Mike's 
> > > > postings, not Ballendro's.  Ballendro posted about the 
ziplock 

> > bag. 
> > > I 
> > > > did not aim any of my pointed comments at Ballendro - he is a 
> > real 
> > > > contributor.  If, in any way, it appeared that I was talking 
> > about 
> > > > him, I totally appologize.  Ballendro's comments were 
> responsive, 
> > > > well thought out and a positive contribution.\
> > > > 
> > > > The other person gave neither technique nor empirical data.
> > > >